Prisila,
You will be forever etched into our minds as the mysterious . . .
No apologies are necessary, everyone has enjoyed the thread.
pseudo
Prisila,
You will be forever etched into our minds as the mysterious . . .
No apologies are necessary, everyone has enjoyed the thread.
pseudo
just a few thoughts..... i noticed that a lady named crystal posted her views.....and many people got upset....i did as well....part of me knows that taking responsibilty for my own life is important... and i have tried but also battle all my life....in fact i called to complain about the mail being late just today...and the supervisor's name is battle...to which i ( with my anaylytical bipolar mind ) reacted.......... i thought ," gee i battled allll my life but is could be taken as battle for youe life"... anyway....my original point was about why ex jws vehemently disagree... i remember when i saw and expereinced abuses in the org..and when i asked "sisters" and " brothers' for validation ( am i right or wrong?????
) some would agree then get frighetend and avoid me remember how we were warned against murmuring and how often so as not to appear unloving many people would use inuendoes or roll their eyes or play any number of mind games......( very loving that).
expressing honestly and openly was , for the most part, not safe so i think that many exjws having been repressed as to free expression are more prone to let it all out... and disagree vehemently......... just a few thoughts.
I disagree with all of that.
Well somebody had to say it.
pseudo
i'm quite new to this forum (only a handful of posts).
but from what i've read up to now, it seems apparent that some of you have abandoned your belief in a god.
is this because of trauma brought about by the jw religion?
The JWs caused me to take a serious look at religion. Many of the previous beliefs that I had about religion were shown to be in error by the JWs. After much research and re-evaluation of my beliefs, it didn't take too much to just throw it all out.
I suspect that the percentage of atheist/agnostics amoung XJWs is much higher than other religions. I attribute this to the fact that they have gotten rid of many of the myths that other religions retain. JWs are somewhere between orthodox Christians and an atheists in their beliefs.
pseudo
referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .
rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.
i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.
The JW doctrine of Christ's deity made easy:
Jesus is a god, but there is only one God "Jehovah". But Jesus can be called a god because there are really many gods like Satan and the Worldly Authorities. But these are not really gods but false gods because there is only one "True God". Of course Jesus is not a false god but just a lesser god. Even though he is not "The God" he is truely a god, unlike so-called gods who are really false gods. Isaiah even goes so far as to call him "mighty god". So now that we've determined that we have "The God" Jehovah and the lesser mighty god Jesus. It must be pointed out that Jesus is really the Archangel Michael. So it basically boils down to just one God and they are the one True God Jehovah and the other lesser mighty god Michael the Archangel aka Jesus.
Please note: When one does obeisance to the God Jehovah. This can be properly considered "Worship". Obeisance to the god Michael is in no way considered "Worship".
There is no paradox
pseudo
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pseudo
i found an awake!
magazine tucked in my door when i came home from work last night.
i guess weve been away from the kh long enough for only a handful of them to know where we live.
Thanks Gary,
Life is a whole lot better now, much less stressful.
Your right about being hospitable and trying to function with them. I went to meetings, studied the bible book with them, went to get togethers over a period of about 5 years. The whole time I was sickened by the mind control tactics that were used. After a while I couldn't take it anymore, so I abruptly quite participating. In less than 6 months my wife became inactive. After awhile her guilt of not serving Jah, eventually lead her into drugs. I guess she thought that she would get all she could out of life before Armagedon. "One more family torn apart by the WatchTower."
One talk at a convention stands out for me. It was about a Sister who's husband opposed the truth. He eventually divorced her, but she remained a faithful JW. The response of applause from the 3000 witnesses at the convention is one of the most disusting experiences I have ever had.
I wish that there was one person or a small group of people that we could hold responsible for the pain that this organization has caused. I feel that the Witnesses themselves are victims that are just caught up an organization that has spun out of control over last 100 years. The Organization has become an entity without a conscience. It feeds off of the lives it destroys.
pseudo
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i found an awake!
magazine tucked in my door when i came home from work last night.
i guess weve been away from the kh long enough for only a handful of them to know where we live.
This is just one example of the tactics this group uses to divide families, isolate members (or potential members) and to boldly display it's hostility to spouses they view as unfriendly to them. They have no respect for the marriage they themselves performed nor do they see the family connection above their own agenda. They are evil and a social cancer and they are not to be trusted on any level.
garybuss,
Thanks for pointing this out. I never realized it, but this is exactly what pisses me off the most about JW's. Before I knew what was going on, they came into my home and started a study with my wife and had her convinced that they had the truth . No amount of reasoning would convince her that something was wrong. My opinions or thoughts were no longer welcome. The Watchtower had replaced me and made me the enemy in many areas of our relationship. It has been ten years since this happened, and three years since my divorce, and I am still pissed.
pseudo