I have nothing to add to this thread, but I did find it interesting so I am going to post something to it just so I can find it later.
pseudo
as all faithful witnesses to jehovah the most high god well knowjohn 3:13 ).
does anyone have any idea where enoch went.....since he never died?.
the author of the letter to the hebrews says "by faith enoch was transferred, that he should not see death, and was not found, because god had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased god well.
I have nothing to add to this thread, but I did find it interesting so I am going to post something to it just so I can find it later.
pseudo
i feel that since i have lost all faith in the society, i feel myself drifting further and further into more agnosticism / atheistic thinking.i am finding it harder every day to believe in a god or holy scripture.
i actually feel more at peace now not feeling like someone is watching me.
religion now rings a wicked song in my head that sings of control, power, money, greed, and endless seas of falsehood.
When I was very young, my parents told me that Santa Claus was real. When I got a little older, my friends told me that he was only make-believe. I decided then that he must be real and just because some didn't believe in him didn't mean that it was true. I haven't given up trying to find the real Santa. I know he is out there. I've seen the fake Santas at the mall, but this does not mean there isn't a real Santa. Ridicule me and look down upon me if you like, but I'm not giving up. I'll find him someday. I may be wrong, but it's my life and I'll live it my way.
pseudoKlaus.
p.s. Santa, if your reading this, you know what I want for Christmas. Let me know if you lost my address again.
download pdf here (all four pages).
page 1 of insert: http://i11.tinypic.com/2s67s6g.jpg.
page 2 of insert: http://i12.tinypic.com/2dtnpr9.jpg.
The Watchtower should go ahead and change Leviticus 17:13 in the NWT to reflect their current blood policy.
[original]
Leviticus 17:13 "he must in that case pour its blood out and cover it with dust."
[revised]
Leviticus 17:13 "he must in certain cases seperate its blood into fractions, keeping certain fractions for substance, while pouring out the rest and covering it with dust."
pseudo
keith schwab, cornell associate professor of physics, has created a device and you can lower the temperature of the object -- just by watching it, and make it move.. .
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/523711/?sc=dwhn
The movement of the device is not caused by telekinesis.
They are watching the device with a "single electron transistor". The use of the transistor to "watch" the device is what is causing the movement and temperature change.
The device is actually a tiny (8.7 microns, or millionths of a meter, long; 200 nanometers, or billionths of a meter, wide) sliver of aluminum on silicon nitride, pinned down at both ends and allowed to vibrate in the middle. Nearby, Schwab positioned a superconducting single electron transistor (SSET) to detect minuscule changes in the sliver's position.
According to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the precision of simultaneous measurements of position and velocity of a particle is limited by a quantifiable amount. Schwab and his colleagues were able to get closer than ever to that theoretical limit with their measurements, demonstrating as well a phenomenon called back action, by which the act of observing something actually gives it a nudge of momentum.
pseudo
I took the time to type the Court Ruling. The following a plain text form of the original. You should probably always refer to the original when using this text.
pseudo
http://www.silentlambs.org/documents/CARulingonDiscoveryMotions.pdf
SUPERIOR COURT FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF NAPA
CHARISSA W., et al., |
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Plaintiffs, |
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v. | Case No.: 26-22191
| JCCP No. 4374
WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT |
SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, et al. | RULING ON SUBMITTED
| DISCOVERY MOTIONS
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Defendants. |
____________________________________|
Plaintiffs’ Motions To Compel Discovery came on for hearing on October 13, 2006. The
court, having read and considered the papers in support of and in opposition to the motion and
having heard oral argument, took the motions under submission and now rules as follows:
Plaintiffs’ Motion to Compel Depositions and/or Protective Order re: the Woodland
Elders (Motion #1)
The Watchtower defendants have informed the plaintiffs that, at the depositions of four
Church Elders, they will invoke the clergy-penitent privilege and object to "any inquiries
concerning judicial investigations and judicial committees." Plaintiffs seek and order compelling
the deponents to attend their depositions and to respond to such inquiries.
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This court has previously ruled in the Track 1 cases that the penitential communication
privilege does not apply to communications between the alleged abusers and the Judicial
Committee. (See Court’s ruling of September 29, 2005.) Although that ruling is not res judicata
in non-track 1 cases, defendants provide no convincing reason why the court should rule
differently in this case. For the reasons expressed in the earlier ruling, the court concludes that
the witnesses may not assert the penitential communication privilege. To the extent the motion
also encompasses the production of documents, defendants shall produce responsive documents,
regardless of when they are dated. As plaintiffs note, it is possible that documents dated after the
alleged abuse will contain relevant information. For these reasons, plaintiffs’ motion #1 is
GRANTED.
Plaintiffs’ Motion to Compel PMK Deposition and Documents - General
(Motion #2)
Plaintiffs have noticed the deposition of the Church defendants’ Person(s) Most
Knowledgeable (PMK) on a number of specified topics. Defendants have objected to six areas
of inquiry, again invoking the clergy-penitent privilege. For the reasons discussed above and in
the court’s earlier ruling, the court finds that the clergy-penitent privilege does not apply to these
documents that post-date the alleged abuse are not relevant or likely to lead to the discovery of
admissible evidence. As above, the court finds that the documents are discoverable. For these
reasons, plaintiffs’ motion #2 is GRANTED.
Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel PMK Deposition and Documents - Legal
(Motion #3)
Plaintiffs previously issued a PMK deposition notice concerning "any and all policies that
the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization had for handling accusations and proof of child sexual
abuse from 1970 to the present." During that PMK deposition of Mr. Breaux, he identified
functions that were handled by the Legal Department rather than by the Service Department,
where he worked. As to these, he lacked the information necessary to provide responses.
Plaintiffs subsequently noticed a PMK deposition to inquire into (1) the organization,
staffing and operation of the Legal Department; (2) the Legal Department’s role in responding to
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and investigating child sexual abuse allegations within the organization; (3) the development and
use of "Child Abuse Telememos" which were forms developed to obtain and record information
concerning reports of abuse (blank forms were produced in discovery); (4) records kept by or
under the direction of the Legal Department concerning allegations of abuse; and (5) answers
given to "survey questions" contained on one of the Telememos.
Defendants have objected that these areas of inquiry are protected by the attorney-client
and/or work product privileges. As to the first two categories, plaintiffs contend that they
concern only policies and implementation, and do not invade any privileges. As to categories 3
and 5, they assert only that the requested information is related to the blank documents they
already received in discovery, and that the information goes to the blank documents they
already received in discovery, and that the information goes to the heart of their case. Finally, as
to category 4, they claim again, that no privileges would be invaded, because they seek general
information about the types of records kept by the legal department.
The court agrees that items 1, 2 and 4, which seek general structural, policy and
organizational information concerning the Legal Department, implicate neither the attorney-
client nor the work product privileges. Items 3 and 5, on the other hand, seek protected
information. As set forth in the declaration of the Church’s associate general counsel, the
Telememo forms are completed by attorneys or legal assistants based upon information provide
them by congregation elders, and are used to assis in giving legal advice to the elders, as clients
of the Legal Department. Similarly, any compilation of information, as from the "survey
questions" constitutes attorney work product and is not discoverable.
For these reasons, the court will GRANT the motion as to items 1, 2 and 4 and will
DENY the motion as to items 3 and 5.
Dated: 10/16/06
__________________________
Raymond A. Guadagni, Judge
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hi everyone just a question to satisfy my curiosity , and if you are a non believer are you happier for being so
One more, happy atheist.
pseudo
january 15th of this year, i happened to be in chile (work related) during the presidential runoff election.
on the day of the election, we could not work and most businesses were closed so everyone would have an opportunity to vote.
i was told that it was compulsory that everyone of age vote.
Interesting stuff,
Thanks
pseudo
january 15th of this year, i happened to be in chile (work related) during the presidential runoff election.
on the day of the election, we could not work and most businesses were closed so everyone would have an opportunity to vote.
i was told that it was compulsory that everyone of age vote.
January 15th of this year, I happened to be in Chile (work related) during the Presidential runoff election. On the day of the election, we could not work and most businesses were closed so everyone would have an opportunity to vote. I was told that it was compulsory that everyone of age vote.
Today, while reading about Witnesses and politics, I realized that the compulsory vote requirement in Chile could cause some issues for the Witnesses who live there. I looked into this matter a little further and found that only those who are registered are required to vote.
"Enrollment in Chile is voluntary, however, once electors are registered, it is compulsory to vote in each and every election."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_presidential_election%2C_2005-2006
Even though this is not as strict as I had originally believed, it seems that it still might present a problem for registered voters that converted to the Witnesses.
Does anybody know if this really is an issue in Chile, or how Witnesses get around it?
pseudo
if you have 13 minutes, here's a short iq test.. http://simple-iq.com/.
i guessed at a few answers, and ended up scoring about as high as i thought i was, but not as high as i wish i was..
That went faster then I thought it would. Not bad though, I scored 141.
pseudo
for some strange reason i started thinking about the fact that i've never seen a speaker podium like the ones used at the kh anywhere aside from the kh.
you know what i'm talking about...those tall spindly legs supporting a small table and then a bible holder thing attached to that.
are those made specifically for the kh?