Posts by joyfulfader

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

I must say that i am the first to say that I dont have all the answers...in fact i have found that i have very few. i am just starting because the fear of looking outside the WTS is so real that it is almost paralyzing. i swear i almost felt the elders were setting up surveillance. i know they werent but it is the fear they instill in us as we embark on a diametrically opposed journey. I often wonder if they see the TTATT and ignore it for the sake of family peace and ease of life (though lies are not easy to maintain comfortably). I sound so paranoid but i am truly not. i dont worry about seeing anyone. i have done nothing overt that could be labled as wrong. Yes i am a proud member of this forum but they dont have the right to know this info. as someone recently said on another post...theocratic warfare in reverse. dont tell people what they are not entitled to know. I am so excited to continue and learn more esp with the advice i have received from all of you on just this post alone. i have been reading so many other posts and commenting but i have found that people here seem to have a much greater appreciation for finding the truth with real study and not staged study under duress. Thanks everyone for the help and extra info from all posts. i am seeing many things from perspectives i never considered from people of all ages. Love it.

I was visiting the family of my daughters friend today and they were discussing a person that they met in field service who claimed all they taught was lies and that the NWT was a bible written to prove jws only. she was horrified that anyone could reject the truth. the best part was when my daughter discreetly looked over at me and rolled her eyes lol...as the mother of a teenager i couldnt love an eye roll more!!!!! Proud mom here :)

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

@ ding-I am just starting to read COC in a PDF. Not too easy but I think ray franz mentions that. I think that's where I read that...maybe it was here somewhere...

101

New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

@jws- that was super cool!! I would love to do that but they know who I am...... Arrrrrgh!!

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

I can't recall a picture of anyone studying just the bible. I would look but I threw all my books in the trash. Was cathartic

101

New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

@ Aware! - thanks for the tips. I will look that one up (as well as others). It seems best to just go back to the basics. Read the bible. It shouldn't have to be this difficult. @ jws - I want to say I was in no way trying to give myself a compliment but women can be very insecure. I have to say that I have never understood the cattiness...there are some way more attractive women out there but that is great for them. Very jr. high-like. I was always so conscious about the length of my skirts and the modesty of my clothing. I really was trying to be the best witness I could be. Giving talks and demos at the very last of the last minutes, reg pioneering as a single mom, really trying my best to follow the rules so my daughter and I would live in paradise. Now I live for now until otherwise notified...

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Question about blood

by XPeterX in

some jw's accept certain plasma fractions.if the plasma is extracted from human blood then who's blood is it that they use?jw's won't donate blood.do they let others donate blood instead?wtf.

joyfulfader

Btw...i am donating at the next opportunity :)

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Question about blood

by XPeterX in

some jw's accept certain plasma fractions.if the plasma is extracted from human blood then who's blood is it that they use?jw's won't donate blood.do they let others donate blood instead?wtf.

joyfulfader

It completely bugs me that witnesses use a product that they refuse to supply. think about taxes...the government uses the money for good things that help society (jws are some of the first to take advantage of these to enable them to pioneer) and then also uses the money for corrupt and violent things. witnesses MUST pay their taxes and get in trouble if they dont (usually). So why cant witnesses donate blood realizing that another "brother" or "sister" might need one of the fractions and just let it be that the blood could be used as a whole?? Seems like the usual BS double standard to me

101

New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

@jws- I totally expect to feel the same way about churches esp the kinetic one my friend at work invited me to. The music she shared from her ipod was surprisingly heavier than the bland christian bands i have heard. lots of guitar and bass. Not bad. But i really think that the music is all the church is about so leaning toward the not going. Its interesting that you ask if someone had it out for me. My experiences involved 2 separate congregations. In the first scenario my ex was one of them...a recently appointed elder so i dont think they wanted to believe that he was doing what he was doing since he was "appointed by holy spirit" by them while he was living a double life of drugs, alcohol and women. I was easy to find. I was right there and by disfellowshipping me they could appear to be being proactive about a public situation. I suppose in their eyes i was the easy prey since my ex disappeared. I cannot say what caused the second...except maybe the matchmaking elder on a power trip realized he should get out of the business of matchmaking after he matched several disatrous relationships and mine was one of the public disasters so he had to save face by villianizing me and I was told that as an attractive woman i was trouble. What??? What was so horrible about that situation was that the entire body of elders was divided and the congregation suffered and the disunity led to one bad thing after another with other people after I left. But as I was told by someone, i can be the scapegoat because i dont go anymore. Let them think that. I can stand before God and hope there is a recording of all events during that time and feel good about my actions as a Christian. This is another time that my motto of telling the truth no matter what because lies are too hard to keep straight comes in handy. No matter how a question is worded, no matter when...the answer wont change because i dont have to think about what i said to whom. When I realized truth is not important to them that was my cue...never go back.

101

New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

thanks Poppers...i have been invited to 4 churches...a non denominational modern church, non rolling in the aisle pentacostal, liberal baptist and assemblies of god. have avoided such for the very reasons you mention. i do not want to trade one set of beliefs for another. i am a smart woman (despite the 39 yrs it took to find my freedom) and i have no intention of joining any organized religion until i am ok spiritually. my heart and spirituality are mine and mine alone. i will find the truth i need...i am positively sure of this. i am a determined, independent woman and am not about to give up.

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

joyfulfader

you guys have no idea how much your words here have encouraged me. i dont feel so alone anymore.