haha more than one of each though CBjr !
N.Drew, u have a PM!! xxx
Notreadytorun
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by Notreadytorun inok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
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by Notreadytorun inok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
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woohoooooooo!!!!!
thanks everyone!
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by Notreadytorun inok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
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ok so if you look at my membership and post history Im VERY much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions....
I have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left JWs, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience. I have just read Crisis of Conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.
For many reasons I am NO LONGER ONE OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES IN MY HEART, but I still identify myself as a CHRISTIAN, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life. The two big realisations for me is that: ONE: I do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal JWs would label me that. TWO: While not having blind faith in the bible and in our creator, I HAVE had blind faith in this organisation. This in my belief is in clear conflict with what the scriptures say. While I could quote many many reasons that have led to my decision, AND back them up scriptually, I am not going to do so here as those of you who would argue it technically shouldnt even be on this forum (according to YOUR beliefs, not mine, and anyone who has left the organisation for reasons of conscience will already know exactly what Im talking about)
The reason I am soooooo happy....
I spoke to my gorgeous husband last night about how I feel and he listened, he did not label me apostate, he accepted that I have made a decision in conscience, and he saw no need to "out" me to our elders. I believe that he also has doubts but I promised him I would not try to tear down his faith in this organisation unless he asked me specific questions. I told him where to find Crisis of Conscience on our computer to read, and he said he would probably read it! He said he thinks no less of me, and loves me even more for being so honest with him! As long as I continue to uphold the basic bible principles we have always lived by he said this will not affect our relationship. Although I am not officially disassociating myself from the congregation (I see no need to do so at this stage, especially for the protection of the feelings of my close friends and family) I will no longer participate in witnessing or at the meetings. I said to him that I will still come along with him when I feel up to it, as I do still need some fulfilment of my spiritual needs. However as I do further research in other bible translations and in other works dealing with biblical understanding, history, archaology, theology (Im a bit excited about doing some independant research, never been so motivated to do "personal study" as I do now!) then my need to come along to meetings will become less and less. I think that this more gradual change rather than a really obvious one, will make life easier for my husband and cause less upheaval for us. Eventually the elders will start inquiring as to my inactivity, and my husband said he will just tell them im struggling at the moment/ wasnt up to it today etc etc and if they try to do a shepherding visit he will decline saying it would be too much for me - ALL of this is TRUE, but he sees no reason to give them any more information than that. The last shepherding visit we had was so discouraging (and they know it!) to us that they wont be surprised if we decline one. If it does get to the point that I have to make an obvious stand one way or another, I said to him that I will write a sincere explanation letter (complete with scriptual reasoning and other research) to all those of my dearest friends and family so that they are fully aware that my decision is one of conscience, NOT because I am leaving my husband or want to commit some other sin against God. To the body of elders I will simply write a short letter stating my wish to be disassociated from the organisation and that my reasons are ones of conscience. I dont think I owe them any other explanation (except to the one or two I view as friends), and they wont want to read it anyway.
Those of you that think Im compromising and cowardly for not making an obvious stand straight away, I understand your sentiments, and I really wish I was that brave - Please know I am not doing it for selfish reasons - If I went "cold turkey" right now, I would be shunned and could get on with my life, but my husband, friends and family still in would have a huge fallout to deal with. At present I have one very ill relative who I sincerely believe could not cope with the shock.
For those of you in similar situations, I view you as my sisters and brothers and I am so happy to have found this community to be a part of, and I hope you can accept me.
A big thanks to all who have seen my first few posts and welcomed me straight away.... I feel the LOVE!
Any questions/comments please feel free to ask.......
PEACE!
NOTREADYTORUN (will have to change my screen name if I DA myself officially!)
ps i have not been this happy since my wedding day or the birth of my babies!!
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hey mr monroe.... thanks I wil look out for your pm. Im in SA! We are close neighbours! As I am married though, I prefer correspondence with other sisters/women at this stage.
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biometrics, very helpful post, thanks! It is of the most help when posters who have left for reasons of conscience rather than they wanted to do unscriptual things. Because I would guess that most of us "teetering on the edge" and starting threads such as this one are still lovers of God and his son and the bible. We dont want to sin against our heavenly father, we just want to do "the right thing"
It is a really serious matter to us, not something to be poked fun at just because we havent yet come to the conclusion of "This is definitely NOT the truth" yet.
By the way I am not getting at anyone who has left for non scriptual reasons, I sincerely believe that we all have freedom of choice as to how we live our lives. So I apologise if above comments offend anyone, it is not my intention.
Love to all
(just read above, i sound soooo self righteous.... also NOT my intention or feelings. peace)
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thanks yesidid xx i think once i make a final decision ill either out myself here or remove my membership. But the email address i mentioned is one purely set up to use this site. if the branch monitors this site and would email me pretending to be a member as a fishing expedition, then arent they just sick wierdos!? But I guess I should be more suspicius after reading Crisis of Conscience eh?
But yes, I am an Aussie everyone.
Invite to any members to PM me for chats
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Anyone here use a tablet computer
by maksym injust curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.
does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.
i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.
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i have an ipad2, love it, great toy - used it at meeting for first time the other night. Its not frowned upon (so u can discreetly play angry birds or read your bble/ other literature on it.... hehe)
Since Im new and cant seem to start a thread.... now does one do that??
Also how to I edit my profile to put in a bio & pic?
Ta
"Notready"
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by maksym injust curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.
does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.
i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.
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Hello MsGrowinggirl20, I am new here (as of about ten minutes ago after "lurking" for a while) So a big hello to you my sister and to all others posting here.
My full story is too long to recount right now, but basically i started having doubts in the last couple of years, and have finally been moved by my own conscience to investigate fully. I just finished reading "Crisis of conscience" last night, after starting it the day before, and my reaction has been exactly the same as yours was in your recent posts () although somewhat less upset as from reading here on and off over the last couple of years, I kind of knew what to expect. I too am at a crossroads as to what to do next. there are so many things to consider, I understand the viewpoints of those whos conscience forbids them to stay in for the sake of keeping precious relationships with friends and family. I also understand those who couldnt bear the the thought of hurting those they love, and going it alone to follow their sincere conscience. Either way I will be honest with how I feel to my husband, just as soon as I work those feelings out myself! More research, bible reading and prayer is needed, but I have given myself a time frame in order to take action one way or another so as to avoid sitting on the fence. Watch this space....
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Needing company of like minded ones desperately!
Love,
"Not Ready"