Posts by Pubsinger

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One To Get Them Thinking...

by sweet pea in

jw
friends

besty and i told my best friend last night we had decided to stop going to the meetings (mainly due to exhaustion/heart not in it/few organsiational issues in the news had bothered us etc, etc).

she was disappointed but felt that we should do what's right for us - she would only have a problem with us if we went down the 'apostate route'!

further into the brief discussion we had besty asked her a classic "how would you know if jehovah's spirit had been withdrawn from the organisation" - she thought about it for a moment and concluded that zero growth would possible be a sign - we didn't have the heart to tell her that taking into account the drop out rate/population growth that that is precisely where the borg is right now!!

Pubsinger

Hiya

I'm not sure it's the right question - because I'm not sure that God's Spirit was ever with the ORGANISATION. I do think that the Spirit is with INDIVIDUALS within the organisation.

As for your friends answer, that's typical of JW flawed thinking.

0% increase indicates withdrawal of the Spirit? Therefore growth indicates Spirit is with them. So if the Catholic church shows growth this is evidence of God's Spirit?

By your friends' reasoning all other religions should have fizzled out by now.

For me it's this whole ORGANISATION thing which is the biggest red herring going. Constantly looking for the One True Organisation.

I feel that the ONLY logical conclusion I've ever been able to reach, after everything I've discovered about the WT is that they cannot be God's EXCLUSIVE channel. However I don't feel that I could say that God has NEVER used the organisation or doesn't approve of sincere individuals.

One thing I do believe that God has done is make information about the WT (and anyone else for that matter) freely available.

So slightly different question and answer:

Q. If God wanted to show us that the WT was not his Exclusive Channel how might he do it?

A. By making information about the WT freely available to all. (?)

"and God said "let there be the internet . . . and there was the internet"

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HYMN USED IN CHURCHES SUPPOSEDLY OF WATCHOWER ORIGIN!

by badboy in

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friends

the hymn` stand up ,stand up for jesus'.

while looking through a searchable database of zwt 1877-1916,the link to which i found on a wikipedia article called` watchtower magazine'.. in one 1915/1916 article in zwt,it metions this hymn,it is infered that bible students invented this hymn.. is this so?.

Pubsinger

Me neither.

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/s/t/standufj.htm

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Days that Go From Bad to Downright Embarassing

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

so far this monday has been one nightmare after another.. it began with discovering that overnight my computer has wiped my harddrive - everything gone - photos, msn conversations, university assignments, diaries, letters, work docs, movies, videos, unmentionables.

i feel like i have been erased!

why - i have no idea?.

Pubsinger

Yes but I've seen your chin.

Seriously Nina we all have them (bad days!)

Did you try Tij's suggestion re hard drive?

S

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Days that Go From Bad to Downright Embarassing

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

so far this monday has been one nightmare after another.. it began with discovering that overnight my computer has wiped my harddrive - everything gone - photos, msn conversations, university assignments, diaries, letters, work docs, movies, videos, unmentionables.

i feel like i have been erased!

why - i have no idea?.

Pubsinger

. . . trying to work out the distance from bra to chin . . .

either very small distance or very big bra . . .

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From A Strictly Mathematical Viewpoint...

by Legolas in

what makes 100%?

what does it mean to give more than 100%?.

ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?.

Pubsinger

Saved to favorites!

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I can't believe they just sat there...

by troubled mind in

saturday i photographed a witness wedding .

during the part about the woman's role the speaker made the comment to the new bride ,"don't try to manipulate your husband .....we know how you women can be ...!".

my jaw noticeably dropped and i uddered " what the heck " as i looked around to look for support from other women there,.

Pubsinger

My best mate when I was a Witness approached the elder who was giving the wedding talk and told him very clearly that he didn't want to hear ONE word in the talk about menstrual cycles and how a Christian husband should be aware of his wife's feelings at this time

The elder was the brides father!!!!!!!!!

The thing was that I have been to many weddings when this was mentioned as "fine and appropriate counsel" for a newly wed couple - and we never really thought that it was in bad taste

What the hell must non-Witness relatives have thought

On the other hand I went to a wedding fairly recently and the pastor thought that it was quite appropriate to tell the congregation what a fine example Christian marriage was in a world where STD's were at epidemic levels ( he did name several but I can't spell gonnaeria!!!) I was disgusted at his total lack of decorum and sense of occasion.

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The Kingdumb Melodies

by WTWizard in

one of the things i find distasteful is what the witnesses' taste for music is.

they have the same 225 songs that they had since 1984. and many of those were carried from the previous book.. what i noticed while i was there is that none of the songs are really music.

they are so poorly written and performed that i think whoever was in charge of it just threw it together.

Pubsinger

Aw come on be reasonable a few were ok . . .

Well a couple were . . .

Maybe just one actually . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Come to think of it . . . I'm with you

Or, there are 225 pieces of the worst s*** I have ever heard in my life.

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The Kingdumb Melodies

by WTWizard in

one of the things i find distasteful is what the witnesses' taste for music is.

they have the same 225 songs that they had since 1984. and many of those were carried from the previous book.. what i noticed while i was there is that none of the songs are really music.

they are so poorly written and performed that i think whoever was in charge of it just threw it together.

Pubsinger

Unfortunately, I don't know any way to mess with a CD

peanut butter usually works.

That is why I like some of the music put out by Three 6 Mafia, 50 Cent and G-Unit, Project Pat, and Ludacris.

I'd rather do knigdumb melodies

One mans' meat . . . .

Or as one friend once put it . . . Rap with a C

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Did paintball at the weekend

by cyberdyne systems 101 in

jw
friends

it was for a birthday treat for one of my friends, me and his best friend arranged it and wow was it a laugh!

i got some good bruises going on, but thats all part of the fun.. i'd always wanted to do it, and apart from doing something called laser quest, which is just light guns, i'd always considered it to much of a no no, when a dub.

i recommend it to anyone, there was men, women, children of say 13 or 14 too, the paint balls are a bit pricy but if its a one off, and the memories you take away are great.. cs 101.

Pubsinger

Hi DB

Funnily enough I was telling my only remaining JW friend about the laserquest party.

He laughed and told me that about 8 years ago he was "summoned to the 2nd school" after the meeting and hauled over the coals because someone had seen him leaving laserquest.

He got an earbashing about "learning war no more"

Then he told that one of the elders and several pioneers had regular high rankings on the weekly scoreboard there but he decided not to "drop them in it"

Crazy.

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Prince's concerts in London

by juni in

apprinceprince will play 21 concerts in london.

may 8, 12:29 pm est.

the associated press.

Pubsinger

I wonder if he still has that enormous bodyguard he used all the time in the '80s