Would you expound a bit on that Cofty 😊
What are the heresies?
the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
Would you expound a bit on that Cofty 😊
What are the heresies?
we are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
i ask, "did god cause evil?
god did it!
whether they answer with #1 or #2, you've got them.
I will have a chance to try this and several other points with a JW I know who is open to genuine discussion. I'm fairly certain he will take Romans 8 and then say that it must be 'qualified' by other scriptures such as Paul's 'condemnation' of homosexuality in Corinthians. How would you reason Data Dog when that scripture is thrown in the mix? Genuinely interested.
Someone on page 1 of the thread said that 'as a heterosexual I am attracted to many different women but following my natural instincts would still be viewed as wrong'. That is true, but in the 'gay debate' especially within the church, most are talking about a monogomous relationship, hence the importance of legally accepted gay marriage. Few would support a promiscuous lifestyle, gay or otherwise.
a day in the life.
i took a hot bath this morning.
then, after making my bed and saying "good morning" to my roommate, sana--i jumped on my bike and headed off to breakfast.sound exciting enough for you yet?
so we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.
but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?
protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?
Please don't get me wrong! I am NOT criticising Candace Conti at all. She deserves everything she was paid by the WT and it still would not compensate for what she suffered.
I was just commenting on a system that allows an institution like WT to buy silence when compensating its own victim.
so we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.
but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?
protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?
And that is my point WireRider.
The Courts must know why big institutions make these kind of settlements, so they could protect victims by warning these big boys that they will not allow them to bully and silence victims even in their settlements.
so we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.
but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?
protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?
A gag order not a 'gagging order'?
Glad you cleared that one up!
Sorry for Conte instead of Conti.
so we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.
but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?
protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?
So we know that WT settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.
Not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, I assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the SETTLEMENT or any details about it. But from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, I can only assume that it is a TOTAL gagging order.
How can the Courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim? Protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt? Sure the amount maybe should stay confidential but someone like Candace Conti still has a story to tell and surely should not be suppressed like this by her abusers?
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
1914 is going to go.
And I predict something as crass as this: Although we cannot say for certain that 1914 was the EXACT time of Christ's invisible return, all the evidence from that time onwards and through the rest of the 20th Century tells us indisputably that he has invisibly returned and is reigning as King.