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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  Pubsinger

  I agree with Vinman. Although I too didn't realise the point he was trying to make either until I read the whole thread with his added comments.

  So stop having a go and read before you post. He doesn't think Ray Franz was an idiot or a moron.
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  My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

  by GiftsinMen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

  i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

  i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

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  I'm a long time poster here and I can 'vouch' for Trish. I know her personally and was in the same Cong for a while. We left independently and unknown to each other until we met up again a few weeks ago. I have read the book too 😊
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  Guardians of Doctrine.

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm still working my way through the videos..... this has probably been covered before but had anyone else ever heard them use this phrase before?

  not me... but it's a clever and as per usual misleading choice of words.. if they are indeed guardians of doctrine, they are very poor ones.

  if so jws would believe the same thing now that they did in 1879 and we all know that's not true.

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  I'm still working my way through the videos....

  This has probably been covered before but had anyone else ever heard them use this phrase before? Not me... But it's a clever and as per usual misleading choice of words.

  If they are indeed Guardians of Doctrine, they are very poor ones. If so JWs would believe the same thing now that they did in 1879 and we all know that's not true. Also the word 'doctrine' is misleading. It is not so much JW doctrine that changes. It is INTERPRETATION that changes to match their plans and intention.

  In a way the Commission was caught out by this phrase and claim. As it has never appeared before to my knowledge in any literature or correspondence, and certainly is not in common JW usage, the Commission couldn't prepare and disect that claim, showing it to be untrue and yet another lie.
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  Article- Child checks for all religious leaders, inquiry recommends

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/child-checks-for-all-religious-leaders-inquiry-recommends/story-fngburq5-1227486717033.

  by: rick morton .

  from: the australian .

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  They will try to say this doesn't apply to them as they don't have 'children's work'

  They will resist/refuse to do it because despite everything Geoffrey Jackson said they still have no concept of 'Best Practise' and they still think they are above the law.

  While I deplore Jackson's motives in making the statement (a backhanded insinuation that it was the authorities fault) I agree with him that the ONLY thing which will get them to change is MANDATORY REPORTING.
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  Agreed. Totally shocking statement to make. It is indeed presumptuous. And presumptuous is exactly what these 7 men are. They are the 7 men who now claim that title for themselves, no longer even paying any lip service to the notion that the remnant of the 144000 are part of 'God's Spokesman'.

  I left 16 years ago because I could no longer accept their claim to be God's exclusive channel and mouthpiece. If 7 men had been making that claim back then I may have left earlier.

  He hasn't even got the balls to say in public what he claims in print.

  Pathetic.
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  Dr Applewhite and Conti's case

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is from conti's appeal veredict:.

  monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .

  very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.

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  I don't think we should make too much about Applewhite being a Catholic. Unless anyone has info otherwise, showing that she's 'devout and practising', that could just mean she is a Catholic by family or upbringing.

  it is ironic from a JW perspective but from her standpoint it may be of little significance.
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  [Day 2 - 28/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i decided to take one for the team and stay up to record day 2.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 and 3 will soon be available.. part 1: .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxspcullksa&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=4.

  playlist where the other parts will be added as i upload them, it also contains day 1 recorded by barbara:.

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  Did anyone else spot Jackson tell a barefaced lie?

  He said 'back in those days all appointments and deletions were made by the branch'. The examiner said 'well that's still the case today isn't it?' Jackson paused and said 'Yes. Yes it is'

  He knows full well that COs make all appointments and removals. He is one!

  WHAT A LYING BASTARD.

  It's at 23.30
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  I'm not offering to do it all lol. But could probably record a day or two fully 😊

  Barbara is already doing highlights.

  And yes I think a no comments channel would mean JWs could be pointed there.
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  Ask Barbara. Her team are watching fully day to day.

  Does anyone else think any of these suggestions would be helpful?

  • Day by day FULL uploads of proceedings
  • Edited highlights
  • A neutral YouTube channel to refer people to with comments disabled

  Anyone making claims such as above could be asked to prove it with a video timeline reference.
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  How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

  of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

  jw leaks .

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  Pubsinger

  What like the BBC with Jimmy Saville and the Liberal Party with Cyril Smith?