Pubsinger
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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As you understand the doctrine due to you being an evangelical preacher, how did you reconcile the passages referring to Christ's deity with passages saying there was one God? -
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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Pubsinger
As I understand it, according to the trinity doctrine, there are 3 persons but only one God. Yes it is a contradiction.
Why the aggressive tone?
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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Pubsinger
In that case you are right. The trinity is an attempt to reconcile the two contradictory statements that there is one God with the statements that say the Father is God, Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God.
The only way that that could be true, is if the nature of God or the stuff that God is made up of, allows for an entity where 3 distinct beings make up God. Without making the claim that they are all the same person.
Could such a being exist. Well it would have to avoid scripture being contradictory.
I wasn't being rude earlier 😊
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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I'm trusting Cofty that you are aware that the trinity doctrine doesn't teach that the Father and the Son are the same person? And you are familiar with gobbledygook terms like modalism and Sabellianism?
And that your assumption that explaining the nature of God should be simple and couldn't be a mystery is contradictory in itself? Attempting to grasp fully the nature of an eternal being that by definition cannot fully be grasped by a finite mind is going to be challenging and to a degree conceptual.
Hope there weren't too many big words there for you.
Will have to reply later as I am at work.
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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Pubsinger
Yes it does have something to do with your question.
The trinity is a concept. An attempt to explain the nature of God as revealed through the whole of scripture and to reconcile seemingly contradictory statements like 'there is one God' with other statements which Vander referred to such as Jesus being Ho Theos.
I will have a go at your challenge this evening.
However 'disallowing gobbledygook terms' is a bit unfair as the process is challenging and requires a bit of intelligence!
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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This is bizarre.
Cofty, can you not grasp the concept of a being, apparently the ultimate, eternal, all powerful being who could exist in a state that is completely different from humans and not governed by the same rules?
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what is the ontlogical trinity
by piledriver inthe trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .
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Would you expound a bit on that Cofty 😊
What are the heresies?
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I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...
by Luge62 inwe are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
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Gayle's advice was good. Test if she will check out the flaws in JWs. Just say you googled to try and understand. If she checks with you, then there is hope. If she won't, then that shows what you are up against. -
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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015
by TheListener inthere has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
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Has anyone sent them all a copy of the WT 'Happy' video 😆😆😆 -
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The Bible can help JWs to stop judging homosexuals. Try this method.
by DATA-DOG ini ask, "did god cause evil?
god did it!
whether they answer with #1 or #2, you've got them.
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I will have a chance to try this and several other points with a JW I know who is open to genuine discussion. I'm fairly certain he will take Romans 8 and then say that it must be 'qualified' by other scriptures such as Paul's 'condemnation' of homosexuality in Corinthians. How would you reason Data Dog when that scripture is thrown in the mix? Genuinely interested.
Someone on page 1 of the thread said that 'as a heterosexual I am attracted to many different women but following my natural instincts would still be viewed as wrong'. That is true, but in the 'gay debate' especially within the church, most are talking about a monogomous relationship, hence the importance of legally accepted gay marriage. Few would support a promiscuous lifestyle, gay or otherwise.