Nitty-Gritty

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  Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.

  what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.

  when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".

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  @hairtrigger

  Your argument is based on the assumption that if one Roman saw what happened everything would change. It's a weak argument though. There is no reason why others should believe what one Roman said, or even a bunch of Romans.
  Don't forget it was the Jews that wanted Jesus gone at all costs, regardless of any miracles or resurrections. After Jesus' death they would have strongly denied any powers that Jesus had, otherwise it would have made them look like slayers of God's son. And they did deny everything Jesus did, and deny it to this day. No one would have wanted it to be written into history, that the man they killed had performed miracles and brought people back from death. No one would have wanted to be known as a slayer of God's son, the Romans didn't, it wasn't even their battle. It was the Christians that went out and told people what really happened. And the Romans who believed, became Christians.
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  Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.

  what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.

  when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".

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  "But in WT teaching, a spirit has no personality or memories".

  Correct. It cannot have personality or memories without a body.
  
  
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  Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.

  what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.

  when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".

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  Also want to clarify that the "spirit" is the memories and personality that make a person unique, that make you YOU.
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  Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.

  what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.

  when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".

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  The scriptures say when a person dies their "spirit" goes back to God. (Not the same as soul as the spirit without a body has no consciousness). But you re-create that body, and put back that "spirit" and it can be conscious again. With all the same memories, including the point of death, so to all intents and purposes it's you, as those memories are unique only to you. The spirit cannot be conscious outside a body. Those who have a heavenly hope have a "invisible spirit body" just like other spirit creatures because flesh and blood cannot survive outside the earth. So that "spirit" that makes us US, can be conscious in either a fleshly body or a spirit body.

  Jesus called death "sleep" because of the unconsciousness factor. When you die you (your spirit) is unconscious, when your body is recreated (or you are given a spirit body if going to heaven) your spirit becomes conscious again.
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  2020-May-16-S-147-E--Announcement in English and Spanish!

  by Atlantis in

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  if you are on the email list these letters are already in your refrigerator.. 2 letters arrived, the same letter in english and spanish.. 2020-may-16, s-147-e announcementif you are not on the email list, reply below if you want the link put in your pm box.petra!

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  Petra, please put me on your list. Thank you.
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  Weekly Meeting Importance Being Reduced - Your Thoughts?

  by JWTom in

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  i am pimo, but now have 40+ years of being a jw as i was raised in a 3rd generation family of witnesses and continue to fake my way through things - fading as i can.. for the vast majority of my time as a jw, the meetings were the central focus for all jws to get teaching, association, information and so on.

  nothing was more important than being at the meetings!

  over the last 20 years starting with the elimination of the weekly book study in homes and continuing down to today - my opinion is that the value/purpose of the weekly meetings continues to be diluted or minimized.

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  "The cart "Witnessing" and directing the public to JW.org has replaced the door-to-door ministry"

  This is not true. The door to door ministry is still done by the majority of publishers.
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  16 German Documents and 1 English Video arrived!

  by Atlantis in

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  16 german documents and 1 english video arrived.. if you are on the email list these files are already in your email.

  just continue with your fried chicken.. if you are not on the email list, reply below and i'll swing by your pm box and leave a download link.. petra!.

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  Could I have the English video, please and thank you!
  
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  US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely

  by JWTom in

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  there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.

  however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.

  also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.

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  @Atlantis yes, this is the letter that was read on Sunday.
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  Who is considered more bizarre?

  by incognito2014 in

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  jws or mormons.

  from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

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  "They only ask for two years of door to door service then it's on to the rest of their lives"

  Without coffee and alcohol
  
  
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  Young children and Corona @ jw.org OMG

  by Gorbatchov in

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  exploiding children for jw.org.. remember i was a young child, 40 years ago i wrote an article about the bible, from watchtower and awake sources.. still wish i never did.

  my teacher gave me hell and said no more of this shit.. since then i was scared for being a jw.. now, i read this, shit hit the fan again.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/young-witnesses-become-resourceful-evangelizers-during-pandemic/.

  g..

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  @smiddy3

  So you're saying all those "millions of gullible" witnesses are trying to get their relatives, friends and loved ones back in so that more money is going in the contribution box??