Nitty-Gritty

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  Candace Conti Settles

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  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @Finkelstein Oh and to remind Nitty, the law courts in California are JW apostates.

  Would that be Zalkin?
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @mf6

  Nitty, would you make these same comments if the people involved were Catholic Priests? Or are you only defending the Watchtower?

  You don't appear objective to me. Would you defend Catholic Priests this same way?

  I sure would! However you are comparing apples to oranges. The discussion I was having was about a young man (teenager?) who had (I hope) molested someone one time. You are talking about adult "spiritual leaders" who have been grooming and molesting hundreds of boys in their care for years.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @sparrowdown

  Nitty said: "Jehovah looks after the org."

  Don't tell me, the result of this court proves that?

  Was that your point all along?

  No not really. I was making the point that that is why people wouldn't lie in the Candace case. Just to "protect" the org.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @listener
  

  Wow Nitty Gritty, so on your logic we can assure ourselves that JWs are always telling the truth if it's not going to hurt them financially on a personal level. It also means that the individual JW doesn't care less about losing money for their organization.

  Well you (or someone) was alluding to the elders and publishers lying. And I admitted that yes, it is possible that they would lie, however in this case, why would they? And yes, why would they lie to save the org money? After all Jehovah looks after the org. So wouldn't affect them, however lying would.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @listener

  As I recall from the transcripts, several members of the Fremont cong. made testimonies and/or depositions. A few elders and some publishers. None of them would have to reach into their pockets and pay a dime, regardless of whether they lost or not.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @azor policy of calling headquarters for direction rather than calling the police shows that the orgs concern is not for the victims but rather their pocket books.

  That does not make any sense at all. If it was their pocket books the headquarters were bothered about, then it would be in their interest to leave each congregation to make autonomous decisions. In that way, if bad decisions were made, the headquarters would hold no responsibility at all. Then Candace and others would be suing the elders and the congregations, not headquarters. And guess how much money they would be able to get from individuals and little congregations?

  Sometimes I think that opposers have lost all their common sense and logical thinking on their journey out of the WT.

  P.S. I repeat again, no one is stopping anyone from going to the police.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @Listener how honest do you think the elders and JWs were throughout this case?

  I am not saying a JW is not capable of lying, but in this case, no JW or elder had anything to lose by saying the truth, so why would they lie?
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @LisaRose

  but my feeling is that you don't risk innocent children, ever.

  I think that is pretty much everyone's feeling, that's why when people accuse the elders of not caring, I find that hard to believe. With the same token I find it hard to believe that the JW org would deliberately put policies in place that would put children at risk.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  I admit, my original post was not the best way to put things. However, I do have my suspicions that Candace Conti has not been entirely honest. Quite a few things in her case do not add up at all. To put it bluntly, I do not believe Candace was molested by Kendrick. Of course I might be wrong, but who of you can say you are categorically right? Unless you were privy to Candace's entire life, you just don't know. And to consider electing her for a Nobel prize....please, give me a break.
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  @LisaRose,

  Thanks for your explanation.

  My point is, just because someone molests a younger person once (as in the instance you mention) does not automatically mean they become a pedophile or predator. It seems this was the premise the elders were going along with. I am not condoning what happened to your friends child, and it's easy for me to say because it did not involve my children. Heck, if anything like that had happened to my son I would have wanted to scream it from the rooftops, there is no worse wrath than the wrath of a mother. Actually I would have reported it straight to the police...but that's just me. I probably would have warned the sister he was marrying as well.

  Presumably if they are still married and all is well with his step children (as I am sure if it wasn't you would have heard about it) it looks like it was an isolated incidence, and if it was, it would go to prove he was not a pedophile and that if your friend would have told everyone that he was it would have constituted gossip.

  The problem of pedophilia is very complex, nothing about it is cut and dry as some like to make out...