This is probably a local thing. The Seattle area has a "Hospitality Committee" for the International Convention, and that committee appointed one elder per congregation to serve as the Hospitality Overseer for that congregation. So, if there's auditions there in Atlanta, it's likely directed from that committee. I can tell you that the whole thing is blown so far out of proportion... in the Seattle area, they want dancers, singers, etc. to provide entertainment. Haven't heard of any "auditioning", so I'm guessing that's local for the Atlanta convention.
leaving_quietly
JoinedPosts by leaving_quietly
-
40
GB approves entertainment auditioning for international delegates.
by suavojr ini don't know if this was mentioned but i spoke with a jw from atlanta, georgia that informed me that the great gb has approved jw auditions.. yes, you read that right!
now the jw's will have their own jw idol, jw voice, and dancing with jw stars, lol.. they are using an assembly hall in atlanta and jw's from all over are auditioning from 8am till 6pm.. supposedly the idea is to have live entertainment for the delegates traveling from overseas for the international conventions.. he said they have had jw's who can play all the hits from the beatles, play merengue, salsa, sing, dance, etc.. the gb is trying hard to make their cult look normal.. some of the questions this rises are,.
will it work?
-
-
-
11
The Generation that will not GO away
by raymond frantz inhi guys looking for all watchtower quotations for the "overlapping generation" doctrine from it's very inception .could you please help ?.
www.jwdoctrine.com.
-
-
leaving_quietly
The idea first came out in 1952.
w52 9/1 Questions From Readers pp. 542-543:
Your publications point out that the battle of Armageddon will come in this generation, and that this generation began A.D. 1914. Scripturally, how long is a generation?—G. P., Liberia.
Webster’s unabridged dictionary gives, in part, this definition of generation: “The average lifetime of man, or the ordinary period of time at which one rank follows another, or father is succeeded by child; an age. A generation is usually taken to be about 33 years.” But the Bible is not so specific. It gives no number of years for a generation. And in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32, the texts mentioning the generation the question refers to, we are not to take generation as meaning the average time for one generation to be succeeded by the next, as Webster’s does in its 33-year approximation; but rather more like Webster’s first-quoted definition, “the average lifetime of man.” Three or even four generations may be living at the same time, their lives overlapping. (Ps. 78:4; 145:4) Before the Noachian flood the life span was hundreds of years. Down through the centuries since, it has varied, and even now is different in different countries. The Bible does speak of a man’s days as being threescore and ten or fourscore years; but it assigns no specific number of years to a generation.—Ps. 90:10.
Even if it did, we could not calculate from such a figure the date of Armageddon, for the texts here under discussion do not say God’s battle comes right at the end of this generation, but before its end. To try to say how many years before its end would be speculative. The texts merely set a limit that is sufficiently definite for all present practical purposes. Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of a generation. There are hundreds of millions of persons living now that were living in 1914, and many millions of these persons could yet live a score or more years. Just when the lives of the majority of them will be cut short by Armageddon we cannot say. -
4
Question about Matthew 26:17 and Leviticus 23:5,6
by label licker inhow could the passover be on the same day as feast of unleaven bread?
matthew 26:17 says it was the first day of unleaven cakes/bread and they were asking where to prepare the passover.
but leviticus says the passover was on the fourteenth and the feast of unleaven bread/cakes was on the fifteenth, next day after passover.
-
-
leaving_quietly
I looked at this very briefly at one point, and if I recall, I think it was because that particular passover when Jesus ate with his apostles was a double passover with that week being a great sabbath (John 19:31) (not only a regular weekly sabbath, but because the passover and the sabbath fell on the same day). I don't recall much else about this one, but this has something to do with it, I think.
-
69
Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder
by committeechairman ini'm considering resigning as an elder.
i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.
and i'm completely exhausted.
-
-
leaving_quietly
BTW, when I resigned, I didn't write a letter. Just pulled the COBE aside and told him I was having health difficulties and needed to reliquish my privledges. He was okay with it, and things were quiet for a few weeks. We had the C.O. visit, and the COBE pulled me aside with another brother and explained that they needed to have two elders hear me out. I talked with them for all of two minutes. It was no big deal. I thought it would be harder than it actually was. Maybe that's because our BOE is made up of really good guys. Nobody has an agenda. I really enjoyed working alongside all of them. But, after I learned TTATT, I couldn't go on teaching from the platform.
-
-
-
leaving_quietly
A friend of mine (non JW) told me about a prayer she had prayed about and it was answered within the hour. I told my mother about it (devout JW) and she asked did she pray outloud. I said yea.. she said well that was Satan manouvering things to make it look like God answered the prayer. I was disgusted with her answer!!!!
Wha....?
So, Jesus' long prayer recorded for us at John 17 was silent?
But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you. - Matt 6:8
Why would Jesus say to go into a private room if all you had to do was pray silently?
-
69
Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder
by committeechairman ini'm considering resigning as an elder.
i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.
and i'm completely exhausted.
-
-
leaving_quietly
Resigning as an elder is a minor thing. Depending on your BOE, it could be just as simple as saying, 'Brothers, I've given this a lot of prayerful consideration. My health isn't doing so well, and while I've been trying to do everything I'm supposed to, I'm finding that I just can't keep up. I realize that I could simply slow down, but after talking to other elders who have been in my situation, most have told me that slowing down doesn't really help much, and that after a month or so, things start picking up again. So, I've decided to resign as an elder. I've enjoyed serving with you brothers and look forward to our continued friendships in the future.'
You only need to talk to two elders on the BOE. One won't cut it. I know.
Oh, and don't offer to give them back the Shepherd book. If they ask for it, fine, but don't offer it.
-
-
-
leaving_quietly
I pray to the Father through Jesus. "Jehovah" is not his name. That is a name created by a Catholic Month. Notice what this WT article says:
w80 2/1 p. 12:
“The word ‘Jehovah’ does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew,” says the Preface of the Revised Standard Version. But what word does “accurately represent” the divine name in Hebrew? Some prefer “Yahweh,” others “Yehwah,” others “Jave,” and so on. The problem is that when writing ancient Hebrew only consonants were used, and even experts admit that it is a matter of conjecture as to which vowels made up the complete divine name.
One could also ask those objecting to the form “Jehovah” why they do not object to other names such as “Jesus” or “Peter.” Why do these critics not insist on using the original Greek forms of those names (Iesoús and Petros)? Are these individuals not guilty of applying a double standard in rejecting “Jehovah”?The problem here is that Peter's name didn't need to be made know. But JWs make such a big deal of making God's name known, then REFUSE to use the closest approximation to that name regardless of popularity. They make such a big deal about "restoring God's name", but then actually don't.
-
2
Shouldn't the Anointed "KNOW" their fathers NAME??
by bruh2012 inthis past memorial made me wonder:.
if those anointed spirit, bears witness with gods and they say "abba father", at that moment of anointing-- i would think they would know their fathers name -right ??
?.
-
-
leaving_quietly
Yes, since the name of the Father is written on their foreheads (Rev 14:1) Not only should they know it, they should use it. But the JW anointed REFUSE to use God's name. They prefer the more popular name "Jehovah" than what they admit the real name should probably be. See Appendix A5 in the RNWT.
-
44
OMG!! Andre from the YPA video gave our Memorial talk.. My thoughts:
by BU2B inour memorial was held at a music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance.
there was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who??
andre!
-
-
leaving_quietly
The campaign in August to advertise JW.org will be interesting. They are touting it as the greatest campaign ever. I'd like to see them pull it off in one of the hottest and easily least-supported months of the year (at least in the U.S.)
-
51
So Spill the Beans, Brothers: Were There More or Fewer At this Year's Bore-Fest
by steve2 inthe jw date-worshipped memorial has just completed its bleak worldwide commemoration.
that wasn't a dust cloud you saw; it was a millionfold hearts limply beating themselves into another round of great tribulation expectations.
i was knocked into a deep, deep sleep by the imagined experience of being at several thousand consecutive kingdom halls as the platformed drones spat forth the predictable sludge that, once released, hits and stains white clothing and bleach is useless.. we know that memorial attendance worldwide has dipped for two consecutive years since 2011 when it reached a high of 19,374,737 and for the promised land, obama's usa, the all time memorial attendance high was also 2011 when it hit over 2.5million (2,563,518) but shrunk in shame back to 2,502,055 in 2012 and spluttered upwards a handful or two to 2,504,114 last year.. so, what was attendance at the date-obsessed bore-fest this year in your neck of the woods?
-
-
leaving_quietly
Fewer at ours. A 15% drop from last year. Which is strange since our was at an earlier time slot and we had others from other congregations that had a later time slot attending.