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preface question:

by mohrb in

order of operations is important, so, i'll ask a question before i make assumptions and start "fixing things.".

obviously, the site heavily encourages the viewpoint of former j-dubs and others who have disagreements with the political posturing of the wbts.

i get that, and see your points.

Mohrb, I am an active JW. I know a brother that has the same take as you, that more people should offer constructive criticism in the form of letters to the Society. I am not of that opinion. Why? Because letters have ALREADY been written ad nauseum about some of the doctrinal issues I have an issue with. Proof of that is that some of these have found they way into Questions From Readers. It just tells me that the Society does not really listen all that well to constructive criticism. And, since they have a bad habit of returning letters to the body of elders, it simply makes the whole process uninviting.

I have personally come to the conclusion offered by Ecclesiastes 1:15: "What is crooked cannot be made straight and what is lacking cannot possibly be counted."

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NOT on JW.ORG: A.P. and International Press break stories about rampant child abuse by Jehovah's Witnesses MINISTERS and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Cover-ups.

by Balaamsass2 in

$13.5m award in jehovah's witnesses molest caseby associated press.

published: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014 | updated: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014. .

san diego (ap) the jehovah's witnesses were ordered to pay $13.5 million to a southern california man who said he was molested as a child by a church member.. a san diego judge ruled wednesday that the church's governing body covered up years of sexual abuse by a member who later became an elder.. superior judge joan lewis said actions of the watchtower bible and tract society of new york were "reprehensible and reckless," u-t san diego reported friday (http://bit.ly/1uf519r ).. jose lopez, who was awarded the money, sued the group, alleging that he was molested in 1986 at age 7 by a member of the spanish congregation in the linda vista area of san diego.. lopez said the elders suggested gonzalo campos as his bible teacher even though they knew he had molested at least one other boy, the suit contended.

leaving_quietly

Two years ago, an Alameda County jury awarded $21 million to a woman who claimed the church allowed an adult member of a Fremont church to molest her when she was 9 years old in the mid-1990s. The award was later reduced to $8 million.

Is this referring to the Conti case? Wasn't that in Alameda County? It was $21 million plus $7 million in punitive damages, right? Was it actually reduced to $8 million total? Or was this a difference case altogether?

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TMS written reviews

by rosesinbloom in

are we no longer able to receives the answers to the written reviews?.

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leaving_quietly

Written reviews??? Those are long gone. They're oral reviews now. And they practically give you the answers. Just print the references for each question and you're all set. Stupid waste of half an hour.

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Eleven Dead and over 45 Injured!

by Atlantis in

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posted on a jw site!.

eleven jehovahs witnesses dead and over 45 injured in honduras bus accident.

.. .. atlantis!.

leaving_quietly

Very sad. Reuters is reporting 14 dead.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-honduras-buscrash-idUSKBN0IK21W20141031

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Service meeting video....what a non-event

by sir82 in

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at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.

what is below "underwhelming"?

"boringly tepid"?.

leaving_quietly

I'm guessing it'll probably be posted on tv.jw.org after this week is over.

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10 good reasons why celebrating birthdays should be allowed

by bluecanary in

i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.

much of the information was borrowed from this thread.

if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.

leaving_quietly

In Joseph's day, the baker was executed as a criminal. It happened to be on Pharoah's birthday. Remember, he was in prison with Joseph. The cupbearer was exonerated and the baker was executed. The details of the crime(s) they were charged with is not recorded.

With John the Baptist, Herodias wanted John dead. Mark's account tells us it was "a convenient day" when Herod's birthday was being celebrated.

In both cases, that it was someone's birthday was irrelevant. Certainly makes the accounts easier to remember, but other than that, it's irrelevant.

This year, I permitted my workmates to celebrate my birthday with a cake and the traditional Happy Birthday song. It was nice. I enjoyed it for the first time ever. And the weirdest thing happened: NO ONE DIED.

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Car accident

by Clambake in

i was in a car accident in a fatality.

without going into detail i wasnt found in the wrong.

alcohol and poor judgement were involved with the other party.

leaving_quietly

LEAVING_QUIETLY is wrong in their assessment (above) since you state that you are an UBM -- (Un-Baptized Member).

Yep, I was wrong initially... I realized my mistake and edited my post to reflect that. Sorry for any confusion.

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Like Button

by Coded Logic in

i read through the suggestion box and haven't seen anyone recomend this yet: is it possilbe to add a "like" button for posts and comments?

maybe something that keeps count of them like on youtube.

i think it would be a great tool to let people know we appreciate their comments.. i know we have the thumbs up icon we can paste in our comments but its hard to "like" someones elses comment when the thread is already 30 comments deep.. (feel free to thumbs up if this is a feature you'd like to see).

leaving_quietly

Click the smiley face icon, then scroll down to find the thumbs up icon, then click on it.

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New explanation of Gog of Magog: Two Gogs?

by leaving_quietly in

i just finished watching the recording of the talk at the annual meeting that re-explains gog of magog.

i caught something not previously talked about, that i can recall.. gog of magog is thought to be a coalition of nations that attach god's people during the great tribulation.

this is from ezekiel 38 & 39.. gog and magog in revelation 20 represents those with the same attitude as gog of magog.. thus, the new teaching (maybe not new, but i'll have to research this) is that gog in ezekiel is not the same as gog in revelation 20. two different gogs, happening about a thousand years apart.. .

leaving_quietly

@Cold Steel, thanks for all of that. I admit, I know almost nothing about Islamic beliefs, so I can't comment on this, except to say: it gives me something to ponder. Thanks.

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Car accident

by Clambake in

i was in a car accident in a fatality.

without going into detail i wasnt found in the wrong.

alcohol and poor judgement were involved with the other party.

leaving_quietly

Wow... sorry to hear about this.

From a judicial point of view, they'll likely want to at least speak with you. Provide the police report, if you have it. At least you can clear your name. With UBMs, they don't have to even have a formal judicial committee. They simply would tell you that you are no longer qualified to be a publisher. But if you were not in the wrong, they likely won't do that.

I would think they would ask if you were drinking. You said you were not, so if everything else is on the up and up, you should be cleared with no trouble.

Of course, I echo 88JMs comments about getting checked out physically, if you haven't already. And, it might not be a bad idea to visit with a psychiatrist. Being in an experience like that could bring about unexpected mental side effects.

Edit: I read UBM and thought "unbaptized publisher". Ignore what I said about anything judicial. If you're not a publisher, there's not a darned tootin' thing they can do. Hopefully, they'd be humane and at least inquire about how you're doing.

Best to you,

~LQ

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