Erm... how can the applicant make a video recording without a recording device in the courtroom?
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Looks like ABC New York got the okay.
by truthseekeriam inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
12/19/2014order filed.
upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.
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Bible Teach book
by factfinder inthe revised edition of the bible teach book is up on jw.org with a new cover..
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It can no longer be called "the golden nugget".
Also, if you have the yellow book in your field service bag, everyone will know you are not keeping up with "present truths".
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The official requirement for salvation in the latest WT, nothing to do with Jesus......
by EndofMysteries in"those with the earthly hope who supported christs brothers in the preaching work will have been judged as sheep and will be granted the privilege of living in the earthly realm of the kingdom.
" 3/2015 study wt learn from illustration of talents par 13.. so there you have it, to get salvation you need to only obey the gb and if you obey and worship the gb, then you will be judged as a sheep.
truly those who listen and obey, will be blessed!.
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@Vidiot, I was just trying to be polite to the self-exalted ones.
@AnnOMaly, thanks for those quotes. Matthew 25:33, 40, 46... talk about stringing texts together way out of context!!!
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Who the Great Crowd Are Baptized To
by lambsbottom ingreat crowd jws are not baptized like the annointed are.
the great crowd's baptism does not wash them of their sins, making them sinless, until way after armageddon (1,000 year rule).
but the annointed are washed of their sins being 'sinless', as the recent wt study stated.
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The Great Crowd only know the baptism of John, not the baptism of Christ.
From the Insight book:
Further understanding of the meaning of John’s baptism is gained by comparing various translations of Luke 3:3. John came “preaching baptism in symbol of repentance for forgiveness of sins” (NW); “baptism conditioned on repentance” (CB); “baptism whereby men repented, to have their sins forgiven” (Kx); “baptism in token of repentance for the forgiveness of sins” (NE); “Turn away from your sins and be baptized, and God will forgive your sins” (TEV). These renderings make plain that the baptism did not wash away their sins, but the repentance and changing of their ways did, and of this, baptism was a symbol.
The baptism performed by John was therefore not a special cleansing from God through his servant John, but a public demonstration and symbol of the individual’s repentance over his sins against the Law, which was to lead them to Christ. (Ga 3:24) John thereby prepared a people to “see the saving means of God.” (Lu 3:6) His work served to “get ready for Jehovah a prepared people.” (Lu 1:16, 17) Such a work had been prophesied by Isaiah and Malachi.—Isa 40:3-5; Mal 4:5, 6.
And this, regarding being baptized into Christ:
The faithful apostles of Jesus Christ were baptized in water by John’s baptism. (Joh 1:35-37; 4:1) But they had not yet been baptized with holy spirit when Jesus pointed out that they were also to be baptized in a symbolic baptism like his, a baptism into death. (Mr 10:39) So baptism into his death is something apart from water baptism. Paul expressed himself in his letter to the Christian congregation at Rome, saying: “Do you not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?”—Ro 6:3.
It is Jehovah God who is responsible for the performing of such baptism into Christ Jesus as well as baptism into his death. He anointed Jesus, making him the Christ or Anointed One. (Ac 10:38) Thus God baptized Jesus with the holy spirit in order that, through Jesus, his followers might thereafter be baptized with holy spirit. Therefore, those who become joint heirs with him, with heavenly hopes, have to be “baptized into Christ Jesus,” that is, into the Anointed Jesus who, at the time of his anointing, was also begotten to be a spiritual son of God. They thereby become united to him, their Head, and they become members of the congregation that is the body of Christ.—1Co 12:12, 13, 27; Col 1:18.
The course of these Christian followers who are baptized into Christ Jesus is a course of integrity-keeping under test from the time they are baptized into Christ, a daily facing of death and finally a death of integrity, as described by the apostle Paul when he explained to the Roman Christians: “Therefore we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, we also should likewise walk in a newness of life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection.”—Ro 6:4, 5; 1Co 15:31-49.
Clarifying the matter still further, Paul, in writing to the congregation at Philippi, described his own course as “a sharing in [Christ’s] sufferings, submitting myself to a death like his, to see if I may by any means attain to the earlier resurrection from the dead.” (Php 3:10, 11) Only the Almighty God the heavenly Father, who is the Baptizer of those who are baptized in union with Jesus Christ and into his death, can complete the baptism. This He does through Christ by raising them up out of death to be united with Jesus Christ in the likeness of his resurrection, which is to heavenly, immortal life.—1Co 15:53, 54.
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The official requirement for salvation in the latest WT, nothing to do with Jesus......
by EndofMysteries in"those with the earthly hope who supported christs brothers in the preaching work will have been judged as sheep and will be granted the privilege of living in the earthly realm of the kingdom.
" 3/2015 study wt learn from illustration of talents par 13.. so there you have it, to get salvation you need to only obey the gb and if you obey and worship the gb, then you will be judged as a sheep.
truly those who listen and obey, will be blessed!.
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No offense intended to the GB, but it's a whole lot simpler than that...
And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water to drink because he is a disciple, I tell you truly, he will by no means lose his reward. - Matt 10:42
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LDC Semininar
by Sour Grapes inldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .
entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.
oversight.
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Considering some of the names on here, I would say: very reliable.
Mark Lafdany is local in the Tacoma area of Washington State. He has done a lot of commercial construction projects in the area, and he is a well-sought after person in the organization's building strategies. He's been involved in lots of assembly and KH construction projects over the years.
I have no doubt this is completely reliable.
That said,
The new design will be a bit more commercial in nature – dryvit/stone/ flat roof with parapet / mechanicals on the roof
Recognizable Images like JW.org
Transparency – windows and a store front like entrance - that passersby will be able to see into
Welcoming Atmosphere –this new design will draw people in
Self Serve Literature display immediately in the lobby – this first thing you see – it will mimic what the public is used to seeing in our Metropolitan cart witnessing
The whole idea is like “branding” – or “franchising” – and very recognizable building / logo / message repeated over and over across the country.
Recognizable Images, eh? You mean, not the Cross, since that's recognizable among Christendom, but something else instead?
Transparency, eh? Windowless KHs has been a huge problem in the org for years. Lots of confusion for outsiders.
"branding", "franchising"... did someone say the org was rebranding itself?
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Do the witnesses baptize in Jesus name?
by runForever inhttp://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/.
the third bullet point there claims they baptize in jesus name.
i know the baptism questions never mention jesus once.. .
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Just because they say the words "Jesus Christ" in the baptismal questions does not mean they baptize in his name.
Found this gem of an article from w98 12/1 pp. 4-7
The Name That Leads to True Faith
“YOU do not believe in Jesus and his redeeming blood,” said a woman to one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. A man asserted: “You call yourselves Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I am a witness of Jesus.”The view that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in Jesus or that they do not give him enough prominence is quite common. What, though, are the facts?
It is true that Jehovah’s Witnesses feel strongly about God’s name, Jehovah. Itamar, a Witness in Brazil, recalls: “The turning point in my life came when I learned the name of God. When I read it for the first time, it was as if I had awakened from a deep sleep. The name Jehovah shook me and moved me; it touched the deepest part of my soul.” Nevertheless, he adds: “My heart overflows with love for Jesus as well.”
Yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that to gain everlasting life, they must put faith “in the name of the Son of God,” Jesus. (1 John 5:13) But what is meant by the expression ‘in the name of Jesus’?What Jesus’ Name Stands For
“In the name of Jesus” and similar expressions are found throughout the Christian Greek Scriptures, or “New Testament.” In fact, the word “name” used with reference to Jesus’ role appears more than 80 times, some 30 times in the book of Acts alone. The first-century Christians baptized in Jesus’ name, cured in his name, taught in his name, called on his name, suffered for his name, and magnified his name.—Acts 2:38; 3:16; 5:28; 9:14, 16; 19:17.According to one Bible dictionary, the Greek word for “name” is frequently used in the Bible “for all that a name implies, of authority, character, rank, majesty, power, excellence, etc., of everything that the name covers.” Jesus’ name, therefore, stands for the majestic and vast executive authority that Jehovah God has entrusted to him. Jesus himself stated: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.” (Matthew 28:18) After Peter and John had cured a lame man, the Jewish religious leaders demanded: “By what power or in whose name did you do this?” Peter then boldly expressed his faith in the authority and power represented by Jesus’ name when he made known that it was “in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, . . . by this one does this man stand here sound in front of you.”—Acts 3:1-10; 4:5-10.
Faith in Jesus or in Caesar?Professing such faith in Jesus’ name, however, would not be easy. As Jesus had foretold, his disciples would be ‘objects of hatred by all the nations on account of his name.’ (Matthew 24:9) Why? Because Jesus’ name represents his position as God’s appointed Ruler, the King of kings, to whom all the nations should bow in submission, something they are not ready or willing to do.—Psalm 2:1-7.
The religious leaders of Jesus’ day also did not want to bow in submission to Jesus. They stated: “We have no king but Caesar,” thereby rejecting God’s Son. (John 19:13-15) Instead, they put their faith in the name—the power and authority—of Caesar and his imperial government. They even decided that Jesus should die so that they could preserve their position and rank.—John 11:47-53.
In the centuries after Jesus’ death, many of those who claimed to be Christians adopted an attitude similar to that of the Jewish leaders. These so-called Christians put their faith in the power and authority of the State and got involved in its conflicts. For instance, in the 11th century, after the church had organized idle warriors into the militia Christi, or Christian knights, “the responsibility for the conduct of just war was removed from the secular powers of Christendom and assumed, instead, by the church through the agency of its Christian knights.” (The Oxford History of Christianity) The account adds that certain papal declarations led the majority of crusaders to believe that by taking part in crusades, “they had made a contract with God and had assured themselves of a place in Paradise.”
Some may argue that it is possible to be loyal to Jesus and at the same time participate in political affairs, as well as in the nations’ wars. They may feel that it is the Christian’s duty to combat evil wherever it may be found and that this includes resorting to war if necessary. But did the early Christians share this view?
“The earliest Christians did not serve in the armed forces,” states an article in The Christian Century magazine. It explains that until the decade of 170-180 C.E., there is no evidence whatever that Christians served in the army. The article then adds: “Only gradually did Christians abandon their opposition to military service.”
What have been the consequences? “Perhaps nothing has done more to discredit Christianity than its practice of taking a stand virtually indistinguishable from that of non-Christians on the practice of war,” notes The Christian Century article. “That Christians on the one hand espouse the faith of the gentle Savior while on the other they warmly support religious or nationalistic wars has gone far toward damaging the faith.”
Imitating the Early Christians Today
Is it possible for Christians today to imitate the sterling example of the early Christians? Jehovah’s Witnesses in this century have shown that it is. Speaking about them, the editor of Holocaust Educational Digest noted: “No Jehovah’s Witness will ever go to war. . . . If everyone in the world in position of power had been of this faith, [World War II] would never have happened.”The same can be said of more recent regional conflicts, such as the one that raged in Northern Ireland. Some years ago, one of Jehovah’s Witnesses was preaching from house to house in a Protestant area in the city of Belfast. One householder, after learning that the Witness had formerly been a Catholic, asked: “When you were a Catholic, did you support the IRA [Irish Republican Army]?” The Witness realized that the man could turn violent because he had been detained after being caught armed with a gun on his way to kill a Catholic and had just been released. So the Witness answered: “I am not a Catholic now. I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As a true Christian, I would never kill anyone for any government or any man.” With that the householder shook his hand and said: “All killing is wrong. You people are doing good work. Keep it up.”
What Putting Faith in Jesus’ Name Means
Putting faith in Jesus’ name, however, means more than simply refraining from war. It means obeying all of Christ’s commandments. After all, Jesus stated: “You are my friends if you do what I am commanding you,” and one of his commandments is that we “love one another.” (John 15:14, 17) Love seeks to do good to others. It banishes all racial, religious, and social prejudice. Jesus demonstrated how.The Jews in Jesus’ day had strong feelings against the Samaritans. In contrast, Jesus talked to a Samaritan woman, and as a result, she and many others put faith in his name. (John 4:39) Jesus also stated that his disciples would be witnesses of him “both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.” (Acts 1:8) His life-giving message was not to be restricted to the Jews. Accordingly, Peter was instructed to visit the Roman centurion Cornelius. Although it was unlawful for a Jew to visit someone of another race, God showed Peter that he “should call no man defiled or unclean.”—Acts 10:28.
In imitation of Jesus, Jehovah’s Witnesses willingly help all people—whatever their racial, religious, or economic background—to learn of the salvation that comes through Jesus’ name. Faith in Jesus’ name moves them ‘publicly to declare that Jesus is Lord.’ (Romans 10:8, 9) We urge you to accept their help so that you too may learn to put faith in Jesus’ name.
The name of Jesus should truly inspire feelings of honor, respect, and obedience. The apostle Paul stated: “In the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:10, 11) Even though the majority of earth’s inhabitants may not be willing to submit to Jesus’ rule, the Bible shows that the time is near when all people will have to do so or perish. (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9) Now, therefore, is the time to put faith in Jesus’ name by keeping all his commandments.
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CREATIVE "DAYS" - What do JWs believe?
by Bloody Hotdogs! ina few weeks ago, i asked you to critique my website article on dinosaurs (http://www.jwbeliefs.com/what-do-jehovahs-witnesses-believe-about-dinosaurs/).
it was pointed out that much of what i wrote depends on the creative "days" being relatively short - something i believe jws teach.. after being prompted to review my conclusions/research, i was more convinced than ever that jws promote relatively short creative days.
the nail in the coffin was the teaching that day seven is indicative of the length of the other six days (i.e.
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From Insight Vol 1 p. 545:
Length of Creative Days. The Bible does not specify the length of each of the creative periods. Yet all six of them have ended, it being said with respect to the sixth day (as in the case of each of the preceding five days): “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.” (Ge 1:31) However, this statement is not made regarding the seventh day, on which God proceeded to rest, indicating that it continued. (Ge 2:1-3) Also, more than 4,000 years after the seventh day, or God’s rest day, commenced, Paul indicated that it was still in progress. At Hebrews 4:1-11 he referred to the earlier words of David (Ps 95:7, 8, 11) and to Genesis 2:2 and urged: “Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest.” By the apostle’s time, the seventh day had been continuing for thousands of years and had not yet ended. The Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ, who is Scripturally identified as “Lord of the sabbath” (Mt 12:8), is evidently part of the great sabbath, God’s rest day. (Re 20:1-6) This would indicate the passing of thousands of years from the commencement of God’s rest day to its end. The week of days set forth at Genesis 1:3 to 2:3, the last of which is a sabbath, seems to parallel the week into which the Israelites divided their time, observing a sabbath on the seventh day thereof, in keeping with the divine will. (Ex 20:8-11) And, since the seventh day has been continuing for thousands of years, it may reasonably be concluded that each of the six creative periods, or days, was at least thousands of years in length.
I recently read something similar, but can't recall where, but it basically implied that each day was of varying length. About the only thing they stick to is that Adam, the first human, was created a little over 6,000 years ago.
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husbands
by zeb inhave you found that,.
the longer she stays 'in' the greater her sense of entitlement?.
that any convo immediately reverts to the wt 'party line'.
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any plan for any time together is screened against meeting schedules
Especially this, including our anniversary.
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Having served on a number of judicial committees when I was an elder, I can tell you there usually is no forethought to this. A lot depends on the size of the room being used and whether a conference table exists or not. Our KH had a small elders' room, so placement of chairs was kind of haphazard. I wouldn't read much into it.