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  OMG... what happened in a bar today

  by leaving_quietly in

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  so, i'm sitting in a bar, having a drink.

  the bar participates in taptv, an online trivia thing.

  the question that came up was, "what did jehovah's witnesses call themselves before 1931".

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  @_Morpheus, again, LOL!. I probably could make it sordid if I wanted to cheat on my wife. While my marriage is pretty sucky right now, cheating isn't the way out for me.

  @SimonSays, I agree. Funny thing, yesterday's WT study started out with this sentence: "The Bible Students* of the late 19th and early 20th centuries faced many obstacles." The footnote reads: "The Bible Students adopted the name Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931." I thought that was funny when I read it yesterday morning, AFTER my conversation with the bartender.

  "In 1931 a bright flash of truth revealed to those Bible Students a fitting Scriptural name. Jehovah’s people had understood that they could not accept any of the nicknames that others had given them, such as Russellites, Millennial Dawnists, and “no hellers."

  Going back through history in the publications, it seems the organization views the term as something OTHERS (outsiders) called this group in a mocking way. I wonder if this is revisionist history. The term "Russellites" isn't in either the 1930-1985 index or the 1986-2014 index, so there's no way to search prior to 1950. If you have anything prior to this that has the organization calling itself Russellites, I'd be very interested to see it (or at least a reference to it.)
  
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  OMG... what happened in a bar today

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i'm sitting in a bar, having a drink.

  the bar participates in taptv, an online trivia thing.

  the question that came up was, "what did jehovah's witnesses call themselves before 1931".

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  LOL! Nope, sorry. Nothing sordid going on. The non relevant stuff was me telling her about the no trespassing laws and the do not call list.
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  Anyone else have JW Business Cards?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my cong has these business cards on the lit desk for maybe 2 months now, is this just something that they have done locally or is this a org wide thing?

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  there are two different types we have, this is the front and back of one of them..

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  It's new for the organization. They announced this this sometime last year.
  
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  OMG... what happened in a bar today

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i'm sitting in a bar, having a drink.

  the bar participates in taptv, an online trivia thing.

  the question that came up was, "what did jehovah's witnesses call themselves before 1931".

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  So, I'm sitting in a bar, having a drink. The bar participates in TapTV, an online trivia thing. The question that came up was, "What did Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves before 1931". The possible answers where:

  • Scavengers
  • Witnesses
  • Russelites
  • Latter Day Saints

  Of course, the correct answer was Russelites, but you and I know the REAL answer was "Bible Students", but that wasn't an option.

  The bartender, a female who I've come to know and appreciate, blurted out, "Scavengers". This led to a lengthy conversation, including me revealing my background. I told her that she'd eventually find out, but this wasn't the way I envisioned.

  I won't go into all the details, because some is not relevant, but I did ask her why she said "Scavengers". She said "because every time they come to my door, they're like sales people.'

  Folks, need I say any more???
  
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  Would you give your life for those that shun you?

  by Esse quam videri in

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  'no one has greater love than this, that someone would lay down his life for his friends.'.

  many have been hurt by the practice of shunning.

  family members, [former?

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  Unhesitatingly. I hold no malice toward any JW, even if they shun me.
  
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  2015 Convention Reminders Video!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  credit goes to mike & kim.. .. https://youtu.be/yj3x6wjrsaq .

  .. .. atlantis!.

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  Going against popular opinion here... I rather enjoyed the video. The message, blah, blah, blah... same ol', same ol'... I think they're trying to spice up an otherwise boring part on the meeting. However, I enjoy this style of video, regardless of the message. It's fun to watch. Maybe I'll try doing one of these myself when I get some time. As someone mentioned, it's pretty simple to get done via software, such as VideoScribe.
  
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  Many christian faiths have an EARTHLY resurrection belief.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i was surprised to learn many other mainstream christian religions believe in a physical earthly resurrection.

  even catholics.

  it seems the belief is that as of now one goes to heaven to wait, then in the future will have an earthly resurrection.

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  OFF TOPIC...
  

  @Crazyguy, thanks for that link. Don't know who the author(s) are of the site, but they are very careful not to name names / religions. The style strikes me as an ex-(name your favorite religion here). I would almost say ex-JW because of the litany of topics that are typically unique to JWs, and the author(s) target certain practices of JWs (e.g. "Today, all religions claim that their teachings are the truth. Why, some of them even dare to refer to themselves as 'the Truth.'")

  BACK TO THE TOPIC...

  It's interesting to see what other religions believe on about this. The Bible doesn't outrightly say whether the resurrection is bodily or in spirit, though it alludes to it in a few places: Matt 22:29, Mark 12:26, 1 Cor 15:42-44 (the latter is strong allusion to a spiritual resurrection). Does that mean heavenly life indefinitely? The indication is no. We're all familiar with Rev 21:3,4, which JWs use so often. However, these verses are preceded by what's written in Rev 21:1,2, where it describes New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven.

  My take on it, for what it's worth, is that the first resurrection is to heavenly life for the duration of 1000 years, then back to earth. The second / general resurrection is likely earthly and occurs after the thousand years. That seems to match the timing in Revelation 20.
  
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Oh, come on now... electricity is a farce. There's more evidence for God's Kingdom being established in 1914 than for electricity (so says Stephen Lett).
  
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  Elders want to meet with us, help!

  by All for show in

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  2. friends

  my husband is awake,yay!

  we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

  when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

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  I haven't read through all the comments on this topic, but this stood out to me:
  

  Basically alluding we are TALKING AGAINST the GB from the Feb broadcast against college...

  I find it amazing that Christ said it would be forgiven if someone spoke against the Son (Matt 12:31), but speaking against the GB is wrong? That puts them in the same position as the Holy Spirit, doesn't it?
  
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  JW Broadcasting Monthly Programs

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atlantis posted a new boe letter on this thread: new!-2015 april 10, boe!

  here's an excerpt from that letter:.

  to all congregations re: jw broadcasting monthly programs .

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  There's no "contact us" section on the web site to give any feedback. I wonder just where said feedback is coming from.