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  Good idea or bad idea?

  by jam in

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  with all the new members seeing the light(jw cult),.

  and the numbers appear to be as many as jws members.. ok, a mass demonstration.

  before you say not a good.

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  Blondie, I tend to agree with you. I remember always expecting persecution especially as the "end grew nearer." I believe we were even warned against the "evil slave class." That's why I don't think demonstrating at

  Kingdom Halls or assemblies is benificial. My 69 yo cousin, who has been around the "truth" since she was 4, is now studying and keeps telling me that people come down on JWs who make a mistake but not on those

  of other reigions who make the same mistakes. So as you say, they love persection and it only makes them think they are Gods people. You have to help them see for themselves what the orgainzation is

  doing/teaching that proves they are not God's mouthpiece.
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  GIVE more Money to the WTBTS

  by RagingBull in

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  a 5 min.

  talk will be given from the kingdom ministry about "donating" more to the world wide preaching work.

  remember the woman who gave 2 coins of little value?

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  panhandlegirl

  My mother always gave the money she got from "placing" the mag/books back to the KH. I never really gave to the KH. I always figured they had enough

  money. I needed my money for my children, besides we all spent alot of money on gas going out in service all the time.
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  The tanning mom

  by Frozenout in

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  nice tan.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtwz1qz-ofo.

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  She looks awful, but I think she thinks she looks good. I knew a mother and daughter that were tanaholics. The young girl was about 25 and looked 40. both of them had skin like leather but they thought the were beautiful. As someone said, this woman will be sorry when she gets cancer!! Dumb Dumb!
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  I can't take it anymore!

  by OneDayillBeFree in

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  2. experiences

  the lying, the faking and pretending, the hiding, the endless mind-numbing meetings, service, preaching, assemblies, everything!.

  most of the time i can handle it quite well.

  but not today.

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  panhandlegirl

  As darth frosty said: get busy living or get busy dying.Life is going on, don't let it pass you by. You have received some good advise above. You need to make friends and build a support network. Take some University

  classes, join a gym, do something to meet other people with whom you can become friends and do thing together. Life is not easy, but it is harder when you are in a place where you are not happy. The organization

  will only keep you down and keep you from the many opportunities life has to offer. Most of us who have left, had it rough for a while, and sometimes things still get rough when we cannot associate with our family, but

  life goes on. There is life and happiness outside of the organization.
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  "some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week a young elder giving the public talk made.

  the statement that "some were led to believe that the.

  end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.

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  panhandlegirl

  Terry, I am so sorry about your wife. Many of us who spent our life under the illusion that we would never die if only we believed and stayed faithful to the "truth" lost our balance when we had to face the fact that

  we had been duped. As you alluded to, the WtS teaching about the end coming in 1975 was accepted as an Absolute Belief by those of us fully blinded by the so called "truth." We have been left embittered by the

  loss of our youth and the opportunites missed due to the organization's teachings. Your wife's loss of life and your loss of her, and children's loss of a mother is, of course, the ultimat loss. As stated eariler, no one

  who has not experienced this "crisis of faith" can fully understand what happens when you are forced to "grapple with the dawning realization that the Watchtower religion was [is] FALSE." It is devastating

  to realize your whole life has been based on a LIE! And NOW! to learn that the Organization denies what they themselves preached to us continually and put the blame on US for misunderstanding

  is so disgusting and unbelievable. Too bad for them that there is not only written proof of what they said but those of us who remember (How could we forget!) and lived through their debacle who can testify to the

  lies they have told.
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  YOUR DAILY JOURNAL

  by compound complex in

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  dear friends,.

  much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.

  however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

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  panhandlegirl

  Have a wonderful time time ND.

  PanG.
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  Deathbird by Harlan Ellison

  by panhandlegirl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone remember the thread in which "deathbird" by harlan ellison was mentioned or a link to it was provided?

  i was printing it to read and ran out of paper and somehow lost the thread.

  now i can't rember which thread it was.

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  panhandlegirl

  Does anyone remember the thread in which "Deathbird" by Harlan Ellison was mentioned or a link to it was provided? I was printing it to read and ran out of paper and somehow lost the thread. Now I can't rember which thread it was. Thanks.

  PamG.
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  Dan Savage talks about the bible and Christian students flee

  by Terry in

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  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ao0k9qdsovs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.

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  zap2it.comdan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the biblehuffington post - 42 minutes agodan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the bible... walked out of dan's speech the moment he began talking about the parts of the ...

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  panhandlegirl

  In all fairness (is there such a thing?) the only people actually committed to keeping the LAW (and all those wacky details of OCD observance) were

  Jews who had presumably embraced a covenant. Nobody else was required to do anything except what was right in their own eyes.

  It isn't so much THE BIBLE that tells us (who is "us"?) we have to do this or that nutty thing. It is the history of a particular time and place and people

  serving as a puppet show being held up as an example. The BIBLE merely reports it.

  Christians claim to be free of the Law while insisting the 10 commandments be posted publicly and revered! How confused can they be?

  I finally got through all the posts. There were some good poinst made by both sides of the argument. I had never heard of this man Dan until I heard his name on Fox which is what prompted me to click on this thread. I agree with what Terry said above. Why worry about a Law that had been done away with and only applied to the Jews? Although some of those things stated by Dan Savage are restated in the NT.

  Tal, people who have previously been homophobic can change their viewpionts. Not everyone of them (us) has a closed mind. I believe everyone has a right to live as they wish and not have to fear being killed or harassed to the point of suicide or harassed at all. I saw the video and was not offended by it or the use of the word bull s..t. I Hear worse from young people all the time, but it would have been better had he not used the word. I think a good convincing argument with a good vocabulary works better.Once you attack people's beliefs, most stop listening. Their departure may have been staged because they did leave very early into the discussion. Anyway, it was a long and interesting discussion.
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  Where do you want to visit this summer?

  by moshe in

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  panhandlegirl

  I would like go on the pilgrimage "The Way of St. James" in France mentioned in the movie by Emilio Estevez, not because I am religious, just because it looked interesting. My brother just returned from his third trip

  to Europe and he told me he had a great time. I really like Colorado and may move there soon; beautiful state, except for Pueblo. I don't like that town. I went to an assembly there once and it gets hotter than hell

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  A Brother Died At Bethel

  by MrFreeze in

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  i got a text from my mom when i got into work today saying that a brother i've known for a while had died.

  he was a bethelite and they found him dead in his room.

  he was the same age as me.

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  panhandlegirl

  So sorry, Mr. Freeze, I also hope it was not suicide.

  PanG.