Posts by panhandlegirl

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Are you pro-activist, anti-activist, or passive?

by cedars in

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i ask this question because, having been on this forum for a year now, it's clear to me that there are many shades to so-called "apostasy", and this is particularly evident in the realm of anti-watchtower activism.. when i use the word "activism", likely picketing kingdom halls and conventions springs to mind.

however, activism can be far more subtle than that.

just having a website or a book that sheds light on the flaws of watchtower dogma is really a form of activism - arguably the most effective form at that.

panhandlegirl

I am pro-activist, but only to the point of puting the information out there. If someone asks a question on the forum or brings up a subject that I can contribute to, I give my opinion. I also appreciate those who have spent time

and effort to write atricles that expose the WTS for what they really are. As a life-long and active jw for 40 years, I feel I know the borg and their teachings well. Many members of my famiy are DO,CO, and Bethelites, but I have

never heard any of the inside goings-on that have taken place at HQ. I appreciate what others here who have been in-the-know educate us about. I also like to keep up what is going on now, such as the Conti case.

If it was not for this and other anti-jw sites, such as jwfact, jwsurvey, I would be in the dark about such events. Until I got on this site, I believed everything I read in the Bible, now not so much. I have read books about the

Bible that I found on my own just by going to B&N or Amazon and I have also read many recommended on this site. If not for Winston, the Diary of, I might not have read "Animal House" although I read 1984 in 1962.

The comments on this site cause me to think about things I had not paid too much attention to, such as the water over the earth that caused the flood.I credit my older brother, a former elder who converted the majority of

our extended family to the "truth," for opening my eyes about the borg. It took a while, the borg did a lot to convince me my brother was right about them. Many on here bring up pertient questions and/or subjects that I like to

read about. They help me see that, yes, I was right to leave the borg no matter what my family tells me. I agree that some have to be ready to leave the borg, but having information to ponder on helps jws to see the borg for

what it is, a greedy publishing organization that only wants to control them and use them to get money for themselves. I hope I didn't get off topic. I am a real pro-activist out in the world. Anyone who knows me, is educated on

the evils of the WTS, it's teachings and controlling attitude towards its members.

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Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

by 00DAD in

relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.

panhandlegirl

I remember that when I was just 18, one of my longtime friends (she was 19), who was married to an elder, told me that because my husband was not active in the "truth", the other elder brothers could tell me and counsel me on

whatever they wanted . And, believe me they did! Once the presidieng overseer and my friend's elder husband, took me to the back room and gave me a good talking to because my friend had overheard me ask my older

sister-in-law if I could go to her house for lunch after field service. I was lonely and had only recently left my parent's home. I was not used to being alone, without my mom and younger brothers. Needles to say, I cried all the

way home.These elders were in their forties. That incident is just a small way in which the elders and their wives inserted themselves into my and other's lives. Having been in the borg all my life and my mother always telling me

I had to respect the elders and listen to them, it took me a couple of decades to finally tell them to take this religion and shove it. Those elders did not recognize any boundries. The PO in the cong where I grew up in even told me

that he had given all the names of the young people in our cong to the chief of police in our town with the instructions to call him if any of us did anything wrong, or got into trouble. How's that for overstepping boundries!

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Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

by 00DAD in

relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.

panhandlegirl

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She refused to Return His Calls After a First Date, Then in Rage, He Rants Out, Very Revealing

by Scott77 in

nb: this is internet re-post lindsay mannering's article.

enjoy reading.

comments (538)|likes (81)if ever there was a reason to hide under the covers with a box of wine and swear off menfor good, this might be it.

panhandlegirl

ziddena, I liked your cartoon.

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She refused to Return His Calls After a First Date, Then in Rage, He Rants Out, Very Revealing

by Scott77 in

nb: this is internet re-post lindsay mannering's article.

enjoy reading.

comments (538)|likes (81)if ever there was a reason to hide under the covers with a box of wine and swear off menfor good, this might be it.

panhandlegirl

Anyone who has seen "Fatal Attraction" knows that women are not the only ones who have to be careful with those people who will just not leave you alone after you have said no to them or not called them after a date.

From what talesin said about bunny-boiler, I see she has seen that movie (I'm sure most of you have).

I agree with NC comments. When a man starts trying to tell you what to do,or even suggesting something of the sort, it's time to say good-bye. I have actually called security at a Mall to see me to my car when I have

noticed too much attention being given to me by a man. I listen to my "gut" feeling when I meet or am around someone I just met or am not familar with.

msjones, thats for posting that article. It was excellent. I am going to order the books mentioned there. You can never learn too much on this subject.

Cagefigher, I don't see all men as dangerous, but this e-mail reeks with danger sighs/red flags. As stated eariler, by NC, I think, A woman does not owe a man,or anyone else, an explaination for not wanting to see/be with them

anymore. It's a matter of choice.

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She refused to Return His Calls After a First Date, Then in Rage, He Rants Out, Very Revealing

by Scott77 in

nb: this is internet re-post lindsay mannering's article.

enjoy reading.

comments (538)|likes (81)if ever there was a reason to hide under the covers with a box of wine and swear off menfor good, this might be it.

panhandlegirl

This is just plain scary. I would actually be very afraid if I were Lauren.

Magwitch, I agree. SCARY! There are some people who are hard to get rid of once you meet them. They seem to think they own you just because they know you or have had a date with you.

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does the watchtower still believe this?

by lastchance in

questions from readers ?

some animals have characteristics that seem especially suited to killing, such as lions and poisonous snakes.

how can this be, if they were all vegetarians at one time?l.

panhandlegirl

tootired2care, thanks for the video. Those animals behave too much like humans for my comfort. They are scarey. Nope, I don't think the WTS has thought all of their teaching through. I wouldn't trust these animals in the new

order. They may not have gotten the memo (read the wt) about how they are under our control and are supposed to be nice. I read about the chimp that ate/ripped off a woman's face and hands. I hate those animals. Although I

believe that chimp was acting in accord with his animal instincts, those animals are too dangerous to be around and I don't think they could/would change. I never questioned it when I was a jw, I just accepted it without thinking

about it. I sure don't believe it now and it does not make sense to me anymore.

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Do you think our society is on the verge of collapsing?

by jam in

not to sound like the gloom and doom cult we were apart,.

but are we heading for an collapse in our society?.

iam sure we all are familiar with the signs that bring about.

panhandlegirl

I feel we (USA) may be on the decline. As has been stated eariler, other empires fell. I don't think we will fall soon, but I don't think we will have the same power if we continue to borrow from other countries and spend more money

that we have. People in South America are younger and hungier, not as spoiled as those in North America. China is becoming more powerful and who knows what is really happening in the Middle East.

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does the watchtower still believe this?

by lastchance in

questions from readers ?

some animals have characteristics that seem especially suited to killing, such as lions and poisonous snakes.

how can this be, if they were all vegetarians at one time?l.

panhandlegirl

Is anyone else embarrassed that you believed all this crap as gospel . . . . .

Yes, I'm embarrassed. I just took their word for whatever they taught me. Now I just say, to myself, I never knew or thought about that. I was dumb enought to think that they really were God's spokeman and He did actually

did revel things to them as new light.

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Evidence For Impending Change Re: "Loose Conduct" to "Brazen Conduct"

by DarioKehl in

on another thread discussing possible changes to the nwt, the post refered to a 2nd-hand report of a co leaking possible changes to 5 verses where "loose conduct" would be replaced by "brazen conduct.

" although it is merely speculative at this point, i would like to remind those of you who did attend the 2012 dc this summer about some important evidence that supports this theory.

if the program is still available on jw.org, feel free to see this for yourselves.

panhandlegirl

I am glad I'm out. I could not take all that control and scruting. I could not have elders getting into my affairs.I would be d/f'd for contempt and insolence for/towards the elders.

Bondie, I appreciate all the in-depth information you provide.

PHG