I also just saw this. What a wonderful story. Will keep tuned for her music.
PHG
dear friends,.
it has been a long time since i have posted.
time heals much pain, and finally, my family and i have been able to move on with our life outside of jw land.. many of you became our friends, our support system, and you know very well our exit story...we were labeled, slandered and disfellowshipped for having questions regarding the date 607. we sent out letters exposing the elders and circuit overseer to over 200 families.
I also just saw this. What a wonderful story. Will keep tuned for her music.
PHG
hey lovely, people!.
well, i think my family is going to leave me alone.
as long as i shut it and dont rock their boat, i think i will be able to keep the ties.
Glad things are working out for you. I agree with "live and let live." Your mantra is a good one. You got to do what you got to do!
PHG
i'm curious.
(true in both senses).
when i was a child i used to hope celebrities i liked (or wanted to boink) died before armageddon.
Wow, this CULT really screws you up. I remember always praying that my brother would get out of the Navy before Armaggedon came and Jehovah killed him.When he did get out of the Navy (1958), he proceeded to get all our other relatives into the borg. I guess I never thought about our extended famiy dying in the big A. I don't remember wanting anyone to die before Armaggedon.
PHG.
the conti case is a game-changer; that much is certain.. its also pretty certain (to a lot of us at jwn, anyway) that the wts:.
believes they have the moral high ground and thusly are in the right.... arent going to significantly change their child abuse-related policies any time soon.... dont really think theyll actually lose their appeal.. .
it should be obvious to anyone by now that one of the most significant and unavoidable characteristics of hierarchal, authoritarian religions (no matter what faith template they subscribe to) is a deeply entrenched problem of sexual victimization, especially of children and young people.
This explains the reluctance of authorities to get involved in these cases before because of fear of violating the freedom of religion clause. It is clear that the WTS, by claiming penitent/spiritual advisor privilege in pedophilia situations,
Quendi, don't you think that breaking a law by requiring two witness to a child abuse crime, would trump freedom of religion. A religion should not be allowed to break the law and put children in harm's way. The authorites have taken children away from jw parents in order for them to receive blood transfusions. I would hope that SCOTUS would take the absurdity of this "two witnesses" requirement into consideration.
Vidiot, this is an excellent thread.
PHG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_wrmwk-fjzu#!.
nightowl.
The video is scary if what the man is saying is the truth. I think that Ron Paul is all for getting rid of the Federal Reserve. I did not know the FR was not part of the Federal government. I feel that if things are like the man says, it may not really matter who gets elected as President of the US, the majority of us are not any better off.
I remember seeing a film about Jekyll Island. The place was very opulent at one time and only the very rich were allowed there. A very fitting place for those planning something like a takeover of and by the financial institutions of the US. A very interesting video and subject.
PHG
my father passed around 9 this morning.
he'd been in poor health for some time, but it still comes as a shock to have him gone.
we are going to miss him terribly.
I am so sorry for your loss of your father. No matter how old our parents are when we lose them, it is still too soon and they are still too young to die. I am happy for you that you and him were able to mend your lives before he died.
The world has also lost a wonderful and brilliant man, researcher and scientist. You have so much reason to be proud of your Dad. As an Oncology nurse, it is such a common practice for us, nurses, to talk to our patients about getting a bone morrow transplant that I never thought about who might have come-up with this life-saving procedure. We just take it for granted that it is an option for our patients. I am really impressed with what your Dad did and with his persistence in continuing to do what others thought would never work. Just this morning I was discussing with a young man about the possibilty of his brother getting a bone morrow transplant. Your father has truly been a life saver for many many people.
I will be buying your father's book to further my education. Thank you for all the links provided.
Again, Condolences to you and your family.
i am at such a loss for words, i have stared at this screen for about an hour not knowing how to address this.
i feel for the family of this young woman and any way you slice it, closure or no closure, it is the same.
i will however say that the said missing person had just went through a disfellowshipping and divorce, and there was a dispute over property.
So sorry about your missing family member. I know it must be very difficult to deal with, never knowing where they are at and if they are safe or even alive. My condolences to you and your family.
PHG
should i try to dissuade my daughter from being baptized?
she doesn't seem to be in hurry.
all her " friends " are already baptized, some since early childhood which is ridiculous in my opinion.
I agree with the others, I would discourge her from getting baptized. The examples of how old you need to be to make a commitment to marriage and the age Jesus was when he was baptized are both good examples to use when discussing it with her. I was baptized at the age of 11, I wish someone would have talked me out of it. I never allowed my two children to be baptized even thought I took a lot of flack for it from other sisters. I never lost them when I decided to leave the borg.
PHG
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Randy, what kind of hospital were you at? At our hospital we do not dispense ativan that liberally nor do we confine you to your bed. We encourage our patients to walk in the hall and we ask about what type of diet or food that they want to eat. We always ask patients if there is anything that may impact their care such as you not being able to tolerate wheat products. We also do not stay in our patient's rooms 24/7. We orient our patients to the room and how to get an outside telephone line. I am sorry you had such a horrible experience at the hospital. I cannot imagine anyone being treated like that. You should conplain to the Hospital Administrator. Our hospital contacts patients after they leave the hospital to get their opinion of their care. I am glad you are better now.Like you, I don't like taking drugs because they have too may side effects. I also agree that each person know their own bodies and what they can tolerate. I hope you continue to heal.
PHG
in the 10/15 watchtower study edition on pg.
12 is the article " what kind of spirit do you show ?
" right away this article starts drawing the line of demarcation in the sand between who has the right to make decisions within jehovah's witnesses and who does not have the right to do so.
Hey, Elephant, I quoted a scripture, Rev 1:16 re: "He had seven stars in his right hand." How in the HELL does the WTS get that these stars represent the Elders? There if no evidence to support that assertion. I used to hear from householders that JWs just pulled scripture out of the Bible and applied it without any evidece of it's application to the point being made. I didn't believe them when they said that. Now I see they were correct. What's your answer to that question?