Hi ohiohcowboy,
You make a good point, they guilt me into going to all assemblies, convention and memorial but not meetings in general.
So maybe I should just suck it up, it's just such a pain in the ass! Lol
i have been thinking about this for weeks!.
nothing short of death will be acceptable to my mother!.
i thought of saying i will go to another cong but my parents know people there so that won't work.. help!.
Hi ohiohcowboy,
You make a good point, they guilt me into going to all assemblies, convention and memorial but not meetings in general.
So maybe I should just suck it up, it's just such a pain in the ass! Lol
i have been thinking about this for weeks!.
nothing short of death will be acceptable to my mother!.
i thought of saying i will go to another cong but my parents know people there so that won't work.. help!.
Lol that link was funny!
Ok, so it now turns out that my wife has to work late that night so that's her sorted!
I was thinking if I go pick her up "intending that she'll be finished and we wil make it on time but turns out she wasn't done yet and I was waiting outside her work on her and then it was too late",
When in actual fact I'd be sitting at home enjoying the fact that I don't have a numb arse and won't be bored to suicide!
has this ever worked?
i have been thinking about this for weeks!.
nothing short of death will be acceptable to my mother!.
i thought of saying i will go to another cong but my parents know people there so that won't work.. help!.
I have been thinking about this for weeks!
Nothing short of death will be acceptable to my mother!
I thought of saying I will go to another cong but my parents know people there so that won't work.
Help!
judicial committees prove that god is not backing the wtbts!!!.
on another thread, one poster shared a humiliating experience they had in a judicial committee hearing.
the poster was asked, as it typical of such hearings, a series of highly personal and extremely intrusive questions regarding their sexual activities.
This is exactly how it was for me!
Before I was hauled in the little room, my older MS friend in the hall (who knew cos I told him) said to me not to lie or even omit or misrepresent anything as the holy spirit would tell the elders and that it would be the holy spirit that would decide if I was truly repentant or not!
Well, I lied my ass off!
I didn't deny anything, but I wasn't sorry one bit!
And they bought it.
Then second time, when someone told on me I lied again and they still bought it.
Right there, I realised there was no holy spirit directing anything. My eyes began to open, and then I woke up.
i did!
most jws that i know of love to drink.. interestingly, i noticed the heaviest drinkers were bethelites..
Yes, my dad! He cannot go one night without drinking, he hides whiskey in places he thinks nobody will see it and and if he comes to my house for dinner(wich is rare)he leaves early so he can go home and drink. I've seen him get drunk many times but he usually just gets tipsy, and that's every night. Of course nobody acknowledges it, it just 'thats dad'!
And I'm the one 'in satans camp'!
seriously, the wts quite often comes upin conversation with my mother,i get all the updates and who was asking about me etc.. and inevitably i can hold my tongue no longer, tho i'm very careful to phrase everything as a question.. so, the subject of dfing came up as someone in her cong just got the boot, and we were talking about shunning and why i don't think 'quit mixing with' means quite what the society says it does.
now, even she doesn't entirely agree with the wt on this one, but then she still defends it and goes on about keeping the cong clean etc.. and we have also talked about other things i don't agree with, un, college, spirit appointed elders, 7th king etc.. and while she doesn't always completely agree with th wt she always defends it and i find myself almost buying into it!
it's not until later that i can think more clearly and see my original point of view makes much more sense!.
Well I'm certainly glad it's not just me!
I was born in and my mother was born in too, so it's imprinted into her brain to the point that it makes up most of her personality. And that is despite the fact she doesn't agree with everything 100%.
I can have debates with my wife and my sister and bro in law(he's non jw tho) discuss everything to n'th degree and it all makes sense, but with my mother, she manages to make the WTS sound so god damn wonderful like she has some kind of weird brain mushing hypnotism trick up her sleeve!
I feel better knowing its not just me tho, thanks everyone.
seriously, the wts quite often comes upin conversation with my mother,i get all the updates and who was asking about me etc.. and inevitably i can hold my tongue no longer, tho i'm very careful to phrase everything as a question.. so, the subject of dfing came up as someone in her cong just got the boot, and we were talking about shunning and why i don't think 'quit mixing with' means quite what the society says it does.
now, even she doesn't entirely agree with the wt on this one, but then she still defends it and goes on about keeping the cong clean etc.. and we have also talked about other things i don't agree with, un, college, spirit appointed elders, 7th king etc.. and while she doesn't always completely agree with th wt she always defends it and i find myself almost buying into it!
it's not until later that i can think more clearly and see my original point of view makes much more sense!.
Seriously, the WTS quite often comes upin conversation with my mother,I get all the updates and who was asking about me etc.
And inevitably I can hold my tongue no longer, tho I'm very careful to phrase everything as a question.
So, the subject of DFing came up as someone in her cong just got the boot, and we were talking about shunning and why I don't think 'quit mixing with' means quite what the society says it does
Now, even she doesn't entirely agree with the WT on this one, but then she still defends it and goes on about keeping the cong clean etc.
And we have also talked about other things I don't agree with, UN, college, spirit appointed elders, 7th king etc.
And while she doesn't always completely agree with th WT she always defends it and I find myself almost buying into it!
It's not until later that I can think more clearly and see my original point of view makes much more sense!
Pits so weird it's like I can't think until I leave her house.
Does this happen to anyone else?
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i am originally from the fort worth/grand prairie area....just curious as to where others have come from?
Scotland, still here.
i mean, is there really any scientific evidence to support their existence?.
is it used as a scare tactic of thewts?.
and i suppose if one doesn't believe in god, a belief in satan and demons and angels for that matter would be contradictory... im not sure what i believe now but would love to hear everyone's thoughts..
I've read in the guardian online news about a class teaching critical thinking to kids, and a lesson about an invisible unicorn and the kids have to prove or disprove its existence.
Of course no one ever could and that's the lesson.
I guess it's not much different with demons, depends on many factors, some personal, cultural or environment or whatever.
Not sure what I believe I just always was a little sceptical when my mother would forbid me from watching anything even slightly supernatural in case a demon jumped out the tv! And now as an adult I've watched many such movies and of course looked at apostate sites lol and nothin so far!
i mean, is there really any scientific evidence to support their existence?.
is it used as a scare tactic of thewts?.
and i suppose if one doesn't believe in god, a belief in satan and demons and angels for that matter would be contradictory... im not sure what i believe now but would love to hear everyone's thoughts..
I mean, is there really any scientific evidence to support their existence?
Is it used as a scare tactic of theWTS?
And I suppose if one doesn't believe in god, a belief in Satan and demons and angels for that matter would be contradictory..
Im not sure what I believe now but would love to hear everyone's thoughts.