and...actually enjoyed it, although you weren't supposed to enjoy it?
the song that i'm referring to, i found it on youtube last night.
it was "oh happy day" by the edwin hawkins singers, and it came out in may or june of 1969. i remember that it hit the pop charts way back then, and radio stations in southern california---like khj and kfwb---were giving it air time.
Good music back in the days.
Funny because we could care less. We thought nothing about it. I remember singing Let It Be Be around the house.And getting in trouble for singing Gypsy Tramps and Thieves. I did not understand the lyrics like these kids today!
as most of you know we got a very angry letter from our oldest son.
it hurt her very much.
i feel so bad for her because he attacked her for what i feel was very unfair.
Hmmm,is he an elder? Because he replied like an elder. You wrote him a letter stating why your not attending. He runs to his wife knowing she going to blow. He sounds young. Next he is blowing up about child hood hurts.(elderish) I can assume that your son reacted to his wife actions. And she made her demands according to the JW stance.
There is more going on between your son and his wife.
For one thing he asked you if he could share,he set his wife up to react. Why did he feel the need to set himself up like that? Frankly it sounds like you live in a different town,right?
Trust me it has nothing to do with you and your spouse. Sonny boy is not happy in paradise. It sounds like he used you to get the wife nagging off his back.
That wife had choices to ignore your letter,but she took control. Smile,so your son reacted. He needs to grow up and take control of his life and emotions emotionsother wise wife will always try to control him. Also women like this will find reasons to leave.
Your son made his choice to share something and he did not have to ask anyone's permission. Errrrr! Dr. Phil.
Stick up for your wife.
YOU can also tell your son that his letter to his mother was inappropriate and if he would like to visit and talk about tbe pass YOU would be wiling to do so. But writing long hurtful letters to your mother is not going to be tolerated. If this is how he is coping with your bibical view points it is two different subject and you would be willing to set aside religious view points for the Love we all share for each other and our grand children.
People do not need to talk about religion or the bible to enjoy pizza or recieve a polite letter. Think what is in the best interest of your grand children.
i notice reported in a number of posts that this seems to a bit of a mantra with the dubbies now, more so than ever in the past.. is this because they are getting desperate for the life they live as jw's to change ?
they don't really want to end their days with the constant drudgery of the jw life still going on, they want something different, but must "wait on jehovah".
sigh.. i wonder if this is a small opportunity for us to sow some small, niggling doubt, why not ask, when they spew out the "it is soooo close" nonsense:.
I just love to tell my jw friends"news flash you are going to die,your not going to live thru armageddon. Our parents from the 40 and 50s died and so will we." They just get so upset and sad. Trying to giveme hope of life after death. I state"Why do you care what happens to you WHEN your dead? "your dead it is a moot point! I do not care, if I go to heaven or stay in hell or get to live on earth it is moot. No one knows." It really is up to God.
Really? It is like arguing over something unknown and out of my control.
It really stops the JWs from their need to dramatize everything.
perusing the coverage of the 2013 dc spewings about apostates, the wt claims that apostates are "liars" and speak "twisted things".
this is their definition of apostates.. now, the reality is that sites such as paul's excellent jwfacts.com, books like coc and isocf, by ray franz, the works of olaf jonsson, penton and others, all write what is true !.
we are careful on here to present that which is true, at least i hope we are !.
Good point Billy!
many internet sites claiming that god's names is jehovah.. do you believe it is the name of god?.
Thank you for this information. I forwarded to a recent reinstated person.
i guess i'm new here.
born in and an ms. things just hasn't been making sense the more i think about it.
i'm starting to get suspicious.
Hello.
many internet sites claiming that god's names is jehovah.. do you believe it is the name of god?.
Many internet sites claiming that GOD'S names is Jehovah.
Do you believe it is the name of God?
are they warm?.
do they view you as an apostate?.
(generally, most witnesses are quite nice to me)..
i went back and i was reading butterflyleia past posts.
she mentioned one on the elders on her jc was df'd later.. this got me to thinking how many others had this experience.
my son was df'd 18 years ago.
That is funny JC with holy spirit. The elders only have a little power and that is in JC meetings that last 30 minutes. That is it.
Hey here something see where your three elders live then go to their neighbors. State to the neighbors that your doing some investigation and wanted to know if you ever heard anything strange from their neighbors. Neighbors tell all.
Did you mean Holy crap? I am sure the Jc are knee deep in holy shit. Backed by holy shit.
You do realize elders discourage people from getting reinstated during those meetings? They try to see if a person is under mind control. They kindly mess with the person head and find any reason to not reinstate.
sometimes it seems we know something without having heard or read it before.. later the words seem to come from within, or from reading/hearing how someone describes what we already know.. what examples can you think of in your own life and in the lives of those you know of?.
Act 2:4 Speaking in tongues means utterance:
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave utterance.
Although Rutherford stopped brothers from use of utterances at assemblies,he viewed speaking in tongues as good information.
Shocking! I thought it was statements spoken from excitement.
It is the kind of things one reads in old Watchtower books that make you go huh!
