Never liked it!
One more thing! The way Jesus liked his wine I really doubt they stopped at one sip!
Two more things: Why must we keep eating those bitter herbs, and what about passing a bowl to dip my fingers in!
I doubt I will ever walk into another kingdom hall.
christianity began it's formation without the bible.
the bible, as we know it, is a collection of what were very old texts when they were assembled by christian leaders in the late second and third centuries because they were deemed to be inspired by god.. whether they really were inspired by god or not is now open to debate, but should they prove to not be, it should not undermine christianity as an establishment.. discuss......
Phizzy, I keep saying Christians only need the gospel accounts,We are followers of Jesus. But the OT brings purpose and meaning to the NT. The book of Revelations and Paul's writings I can do with out!
christianity began it's formation without the bible.
the bible, as we know it, is a collection of what were very old texts when they were assembled by christian leaders in the late second and third centuries because they were deemed to be inspired by god.. whether they really were inspired by god or not is now open to debate, but should they prove to not be, it should not undermine christianity as an establishment.. discuss......
Kaik that is so true! Jws need to read the latest WT and new books! But the bible never! :-)
at the extj.com forum, a very serious scandal is being discussed regarding a potential misappropriation of funds by mexico's branch.. http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?24740-denuncia--quot-proyecto-fantasma-quot-salon-de-asambleas-de-guadalajara-o-robo-de-fondos.
though the situation may not be quite uncommon, below you will find an overview:.
a member of mexico's branch committee went to guadalajara to inform the brothers that a plot of land had been donated for the construction of an assembly hall.
Hmm,I do not recall scams like this here in the states!
Two different countries! I wonder how many more countries donated money with out any assembly hall built. The money seemed to be enough for a couple of buildings!
Just wonder how much does an assembly hall cost to build? Most people volunteer their time, tools, truck,and gas!
Strange because here the money was placed in a local bank account and the elders from the various halls handled everything. Ech were given building assignments.
This is awful!
all through my years as a jws and after i have always wondered about john 20:28 where thomas says "my lord and my god" to jesus.
i just could not find a suitable answer for this text to disprove the trinity doctrine.
i really never swallowed the jws intrepretation of "shock" by thomas something like "oh my god" but at the same time i had a gut feeling trinitarians were hiding something about this verse.
Interesting but I think Thomas was talking to Jesus when he said.
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him(Jesus), “My Lord and my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas,[ d ] because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen andyet have believed.
I think it would be safe to not see Jesus and say to him,"My Lord my God!"
It is really about believing that Jesus is Lord and God.
Not too sure if this scripture proves Trinity but it prove Thomas refer to Jesus as his Lord and his God.
JWs do not believe they should call Jesus God so arguing with them is a waste of time.
Your right! this scripture does not disprove God is Jesus a portion of Trinity.
Magnum good job!
Booker-t most Christians do not feel the need to think any other way and they are confused with JW doctrines. Christendom are all wrong and JW over reasoning is right. Not!
all through my years as a jws and after i have always wondered about john 20:28 where thomas says "my lord and my god" to jesus.
i just could not find a suitable answer for this text to disprove the trinity doctrine.
i really never swallowed the jws intrepretation of "shock" by thomas something like "oh my god" but at the same time i had a gut feeling trinitarians were hiding something about this verse.
I am not sure that Jesus was actually calling Peter Satan. Also, Jesus might be referring to himself as God considering the conversation.
Mark 8:33
You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.
My Lord My God! sound more like acknowledging Jesus as God! Thomas stopped doubting but believed Jesus was his Lord and God.
Not too sure how anyone could compare these scriptures as similar only to prove again Jesus as God.
Good topic! Considering I can not read Hebrew or Greek! lol. I just read the conversation! Lol.
Looking forward to reading what others think.
all through my years as a jws and after i have always wondered about john 20:28 where thomas says "my lord and my god" to jesus.
i just could not find a suitable answer for this text to disprove the trinity doctrine.
i really never swallowed the jws intrepretation of "shock" by thomas something like "oh my god" but at the same time i had a gut feeling trinitarians were hiding something about this verse.
Hello
I like Hebrews when Jehovah is speaking about his son Jesus. It proves Jesus was called God by Jehovah. The Jdubs can write anything and say what ever to decredit Hebrews 1.
Hebrew 1
But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.” [e]
Sorry not good with the Holy Spirit as God!
I focus on Jesus and leave the Holy Spirit as God alone.
Also, it is kind of hard to argue with what Thomas said!
For a professor he just stating what the JW believe so I doubt that he is applying scholar opinion. Just trying to convince you.
I heard that he utterred it out of excitment, but I doubt they spoke that way. 1970s, the WT said the samething but would that be like cursing!
Oh my God! I was taught Oh my God was cussing! Is there another scripture to back up they spoke like that?
If something sounds wrong with WT explanation it is wrong!
i am a newly unbaptised publisher.
recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.
i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.
Hope everything goes okay!
Elders planned my parents to move out of the state of California due to the blood issue!
It was tough times and unbelivable! I summed it up as a lot of drama in my life.
i will never appologize for being a canadian.
my familly has lived here for about 300 years.
we have seen tribulation and tumult ,good times and bad.
Wonderful country!
christianity began it's formation without the bible.
the bible, as we know it, is a collection of what were very old texts when they were assembled by christian leaders in the late second and third centuries because they were deemed to be inspired by god.. whether they really were inspired by god or not is now open to debate, but should they prove to not be, it should not undermine christianity as an establishment.. discuss......
Some Christians probably never read the bible but heard about Jesus from others and followed.
God reads our hearts.
