Posts by sarahsmile

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How We Come Across On The Board

by minimus in

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most people here have never met you.

we converse, discuss, argue, laugh, agree, question, share our lives..... quite often, you kind of get to know what a person is like.

some people, we tend to gravitate to and others, we shy away from.. how do you think you come across to other people?

sarahsmile

LOL!

I can imagine everyone answering questions at the same kh! What a great group!

Min- Why ask questions!

You said," Some posters like me and others aren't too fond of me. That's ok. As a whole, I get along with most everyone I meet. I have a good sense of humor and I can see bullshit very clearly."

I thought your smiley face had sunglasses on! Oh they are reading glasses!,

What are you trying to do bull shit all the above bull shitters?

Maybe you need help writing your singles ad?

Maybe everyone should help you out some!

I will help some here it goes:

Hot Red M&M looking for tea and sympathy from any color M&M.

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How We Come Across On The Board

by minimus in

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friends

most people here have never met you.

we converse, discuss, argue, laugh, agree, question, share our lives..... quite often, you kind of get to know what a person is like.

some people, we tend to gravitate to and others, we shy away from.. how do you think you come across to other people?

sarahsmile

Kind of funny because I thought you were a senior women! :-)

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Need To Upgrade Captives of a Concept?

by Cameron_Don in

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captives of a concept is based on the governing bodys pre-2012 interpretation of the most important scripture in their theology matthew 24:45-47. the book shows that when that interpretation is compared to the organizations history that relates to it, it becomes evident that the watchtower society has never been gods organization.

see chapter 3. their old interpretation was that the society had been so faithful and discreet about what they had provided in the way of spiritual food at the proper time that jesus appointed rutherford and his associates over all his belongings in 1919. therefore the society has been gods organization ever since.. their new interpretation is that the society had been so faithful and discreet about what they had provided in the way of spiritual food at the proper time that he appointed rutherford and his associates over his domistics in 1919. and therefore the society has been gods organization ever since.. notice that it doesnt make any difference which interpretation is used.

in order to qualify for the belongings appointment in verse 47 or the domestics appointment in verse47 the society had to have been faithful and discreet about what russell and rutherford had provided in the way of spiritual food at the proper time down till 1919.. but as captives of a concept clearly shows, they had not been either faithful or discreet which is why raymond franz expressed it this way.... it would be an insult to christ jesus to say that he (appointed) the society (over his belongings or domestics) on the basis of what it had been teaching as of 1919.. and so even though captives of a concept focuses on the pre-2012 interpretation and the belongings appointment in verse 47, what it says also applies to the post-2012 interpretation and the domestics appointment in verse 45.. and therefore the conclusion of either interpretation remains the same.

sarahsmile

I could care less about Captive of Concept. The old books are enough to make you so angry about food at proper time.

Consider the Wt stated that pyramidology is food from demons and Jesus came to the earthly temple to throw it out in 1919! Why would they celibrate Jesus invisible enthroned in 1914! After all it is part of the pyramid measurement give or take a year. It kind of throws out the last volume of the Study of the Scriptures and every book after that!

Flash forward all the junk you read that is strange is most likely borrowed from these old books. You see a WT declaring a light illuminating and flashing bright. Illuminating always makes me wonder. There is always some off the wall qoutes in a new WT that has not one thing to do with the subject. Borrowed! :-)

Whats fun is trying to figure out when a doctrines begin and how it changed through out time. That is what many here have done so newbies can find it through search.

All books exposing JWs do not hold a candle to one of Rutherfords old books. :-)

Rutherford books just make you laugh until the shock sets in, who really supplied demonic food! Get ready for crazy doctrines, yet you will find them changed a little and re qouted in WT.

Anything typical and anti typical! WT seems to think they are fullfilling old testament scriptures. Why do you think they are going door to door! Fullfilling the Secretary with an inkhorn! Oh give me a break! :-) Marking and more marking. We marked peopla as righteous and the ekders mark people as unrighteous. Lol.

I went through a book called Insight on the history of JWs. There are people mentioned in there you could actually find. Strange religion history.

I am off!

Anyhow, I am taking a break!

One more thought Rutherford during assemblies thought ones doing utterances was so good he said that he was going to use it! Yet they stopped utterance at the assemblies. Utterances, speaking in tongues! Now what were you saying about food at proper time oh yeah it was food from demons!LOL

Your right!

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My logic and emotions are in a turmoil. Need specific help please

by stuckinarut2 in

i am still in, and as my name says "stuckinarut"...now i know it is not the truth, i know it for a fact...but im so messed up with a wash of hundreds of thoughts that i cant seem to get my head in order.. i thought i had my head clear and my 'sh1t together' so to speak....but ..... im sure you know what i mean?

when there are so many reasons and facts proving ttatt, but if asked to make a list in bullet points now, i would get so overwhelmed....i just dont know where to start.

i feel like i would be like a balloon let go flying around the room in all directions trying to 'spew' out the facts!.

sarahsmile

1. Jehovah calls Jesus God. Jesus is higher than the angels so he can not be Michael. Hebrews 1:1-8

8 But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.*

So John 1:1 is wrong in the NWT. and the WORD was a god it more right tHe WORD was God.

I am not Trinitarian just saying there something not right about the JW teaching.

2. Making Jesus out to be lower than the angels and claiming he is many angels! Just wrong!

He is the reflection of God’s glory + and the exact representation of his very being,

3. Jesus wants everyone to partake whereas JWs only want a selected few. John 6.

4. Confessing ones sin is not a disfellowshipping offence. Just not in the bible.

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The Generation that 'WILL NOT DIE'

by LogCon in

how many people, shown in this 1914 grade three school picture, do you think may still be alive ?.

birch school.

group iii.

sarahsmile

One!

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JW.ORG Logo Denied Trademark Status by United States Patent and Trademark Office

by jwleaks in

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the jehovahs witnesses official web site logo incorporating jw.org has been refused registration by the united states patent and trademark office due to similarity to jw player.. section 2(d) refusal likelihood of confusionclass 42. for the reasons set forth below, the refusal under trademark act section 2(d) is now made final with respect to u.s. registration no(s).

this refusal is limited to the class 42 services in the application.. applicants mark is jw.org & design, for use with, inter alia, providing a web site that gives computer users the ability to download audio and video recordings, dvds, music, digital print publications, online publications, documents, forms and web pages all in the field of religion, in class 42. the cited mark is jw player, for use with downloadable computer software for playing, viewing and streaming audio and video files in class 09.. .

documents available to download at jw leaks.. http://jwleaks.org/2014/06/19/jw-org-logo-denied-trademark-status-in-the-united-states/.

sarahsmile

Does that mean anyone can use JW.org as their logo?

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End Of End Of The World Education Charities/The Sky Is Falling/Dooms Day Howlers Charity Scam To Educate People To Listen Obey And Don't Get Disfellowshipped.

by frankiespeakin in

i'm mean how long could it have lasted in the age of the internet easy information access i wonder how many calls they will get from the fraud department before and durring the audit?:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/charitable-giving/#?insight.

charitable planning.

sarahsmile

VIOLENCE erupted in the wake of a contested election, forcing thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses to flee their homes,” relates François, an elder in a developing land. “Food and medicine became scarce, and what remained was extremely expensive. Banks closed, and cash machines emptied or went off-line.”

Brothers from the branch office quickly began delivering funds and emergency supplies to displaced Witnesses gathered at Kingdom Halls around the country. Rival factions set up roadblocks, but because both sides knew that the Witnesses maintain strict neutrality, branch vehicles were usually allowed to pass.

Did this article say

Who was involved?

Where did this happened?

How many JW suffered injuries and lost homes?

Sorry did I miss something?

Not a very good report! Too vague.

How can anyone donated when the facts are lacking. Typical for scam artist.

I remember going over old year books and WT! Same bull!

Worldwide work my ass!,It is nothing more than opportunity to make money on people who suffer. What a scam and dishonest. Oh yeah they might give some but profit is the game!

I do recalling the special pioneers who went to third world countries, they never received anything from the society. They had no safe place to sleep.

Not even a bed waiting for them. People were basically shit out of luck in Africa jungles. Yet, people were grateful to serve Jehovah.

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1975 Marketing

by lambsbottom in

can anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?

how were they soooo effective?

i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!

sarahsmile

Yeah Rebel gee thanks for the reminder! That brought back memories! I did feel very special and sorry for the world! But never believed in Armageddon right around tge corner. I think I was marked at an early age. I was kind of joking all the time and wanting every one to live in harmony. It was the times!

Imagine all the people, it is easy if you try!

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1975 Marketing

by lambsbottom in

can anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?

how were they soooo effective?

i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!

sarahsmile

Here what I recall, the generation of 1914 who were teenagers were getting ready to die off. It was some strange sign that we were getting close to the last generation that Jesus mentioned.

No one ever worried about the end drawing near. We did not think about it! But when we had the gas rashing and there was a shortage. Bky we thought itvwas a sign. Gas was .50 a gallon and we were in gas lines for about 45 minutes.

Other than that it was as every day conversation and gossip. I had to help get the house ready for the meetings and out in service. No one thought twice about end times un folding or armageddon around the corner.

Actually it was one of the better times to be a JW because we had get together and park pot lucks. Swimming parties. I threw peace signs to my friends at the KH. I was well liked.

No one cared about end times in 1975 it came and gone without anyone recognizing it.

Rebel - I hated calculating that 6,000 years of man's existence to prove we were the last generation. I think it was 80 years of life.

It started when I was about 12 years old! I asked the visiting Overseer," How does anyone know we are living in that last generation?"

It was one bible studies after another until I was baptized pre 1975.

Everyone looked forward to Fred Franz talks.

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Wearing a wire

by Hairtrigger in

hye folks-just wanted some info.

is wearing a wire to a jc or any other meeting an easy-to-do thing.

how do you go about trying to find to an agency that hires out equipment?

sarahsmile

If I could do it over I would first have them sign a confidentiality agreement between only the three elders and you.

They break this rule first!

Next is the shock of listening to their lies. Lol