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sarahsmile
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Some EXJW blogs are more controlling than the WT!
by BucketShopBill inthe owners of jehovahs-witness.net are very honest and decent individuals, he and she allow freedom of speech and the allowance of exchanging ideas.
this is not the case with other active and ex-jw information sites (won't post them, you know who they are) that refuse our allowance to disagree or point out their chronic slanted and often distorted perspective.
the watchtower provides us with enough material there is no reason we need to twist their material.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha ini've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.
why can we not do that on this site?
what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
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sarahsmile
I only wished thirty five years ago,I had one person I could go to for help. At least now lurkers, disfellowshipped ones,and anyone who is affiliated with WT can come here! They are not alone.
People will figure out were they stand and believe but at least they can read ALL view points.
Villagegirl and many others were wondering the same things! So...
Simon and Steve thank you for helping many here understand.
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Watchtower Oct 15 2014
by Listener inthe october watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
regarding the new covenant they write.
the governing body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like jesus and as humans they are sinless in god's eyes.. then on page 24 they state this.
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sarahsmile
I only need to read page 24 To unerstand the Governing Body has now made themselves God!( Nevertheless,we are fully aware of the benefits of cooperating with Jehovah in any adjustments....) Ok!
Hebrews 13:8
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. :-)
9 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. :-)
Jehovah never made any ADJUSTMENTS therefore Jehovahs Witnesses are being carried away by ALL kinds of STRANGE doctrines.
It is that simple read scriptures to see if it fits!
God does not need to make adjustments!
FALSE TEACHINGS can destroy your life and families future.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha ini've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.
why can we not do that on this site?
what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
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sarahsmile
Maranatha your right! and Welcome!
The name is miss leading! I think that would be a good name for this website.
Years ago this website had several good bibical debates based on the bible but it evolved just like the WTs doctrines! I doubt I understand the new JWs.
Look at it this way some Christian for exJW sites go the opposite way. They think they are the brotherhood of Christ and long to control others by the bible! Eldership is to help you. It is the Kingdom Hall all over again. They lack diversity and it is their way are the high way. Disfellowshipping you because you doubted Pauls letter then gang up on you like wolves! Calling you names by abusing the bible. Lack respect for ladies because of their elder mentality,disgrunted husband,or just hate women. Elders kissing each others by overly blogging as if they are the most important ones "closer" to Jesus.
At least here you know were everyone stands. Yeah I get tired of the Atheist but considering what Steve stated I have some more understanding. Atheist get tired of my Christian out look.
What about the ones who were never JW, yet they are trying to help JWs. Some days you can have a good laugh.
Welcome!
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2 Cor 11:4 PROVES there were various versions of Jesus and gospels BEFORE the gospels
by yadda yadda 2 inthe gospels were written after paul's epistles.
this is commonly acknowledged by both apologist and neutural bible scholars.
yet we see that paul says clearly in 2 corinthians 11:4 that persons were preaching different versions of jesus and different gospels before the orthodox canonized gospels were written:.
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sarahsmile
Smiddy what is your understanding as to why?
Here us what I understood because the King Jame Bible use the name of God,Jehovah.
And Rutherfords group captured readers hearts toward the name as something that should be known. Let Your Name Be known
Considering King James placed the name with LORD.
Anybow,back to the subject maybe there were other Jesus besides Lord Jesus.
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GB vs. Jesus
by runForever indoesn't it seem like the gb doesn't like to give any authoriy to jesus?
seems like they only want it for themselves..
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sarahsmile
Have you ever heard a talk yet on just Jesus Christ words? They mixed scriptures and it gets people believing in another Jesus.
If you compare NWT Jesus words with other bibles it reads different.
How can they take scriptures to prove they follow Jesus when it is twisted.
GB has a fake Jesus.
How would you give Jesus authority?
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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sarahsmile
Screw them! Why do you feel you need to tell those elders anything! Stepping down is bull.
Just leave and do not answer your phone.
Why bother caring about stepping down. Just walk out.
It is not like leaving a job! Are you going to use them on your resume? No!
You might want to shake the dust off your shoes.
Your wife will get over you not attending.
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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sarahsmile
Fader77
How your feeling about your relationship with your wife is just a thought. Not in love today can chamge tomorrow.
Take it slow.
Stepping down as an elder will probably help you with your relationship. In fact that would be a good reason to step down. You want to spend more time nurturing your family. You will look like a super good guy! Although you probably are a super good guy!
Have a great day! Enjoy making your escape out of the eldership instead of dreading it. It all about perspective and doing a litlle I am out of here dance. Booty dance. Texas two step or New York swing.
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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sarahsmile
Maybe you need to let your wife go so she can be with someone else.
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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sarahsmile
I hope you seek out professional counselling. Do you feel like your in a war zone because for some exJW that is how it feels like. Anger,confusion, and
unnecessary stress due to elders lies and bull crap.
Post Trumatic Stress.
Also
cognitive dissonance is the excessive mental stress and discomfort [ 1 ] experienced by an individual who (1) holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time or (2) is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. This stress and discomfort may also arise within an individual who holds a belief and performs a contradictory action or reaction. [ 2 ]
Trying to be a Jw elder after realizing they are bull shit and causing harm to you and your family members is just asking for more anxieties and harm.Your red flags are working.
Being around a group of mentally ill elders who lacks power in the real world will mess your head up!
For years!
If your sufferring from a little anxiety just keep attending and you could end up worse.
Do you have a hobbie you could do instead of meetings? Or maybe sports.