Some times it is very hard to figure out group dynamics of WTs! The "us" versus "self"
Lundo good job with the latest research!
Thanks for the info.
sarahsmile
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Scientific basis for Captives of a Concept?
by Londo111 inhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140612104950.htm.
when people get together in groups, unusual things can happen -- both good and bad.
groups create important social institutions that an individual could not achieve alone, but there can be a darker side to such alliances: belonging to a group makes people more likely to harm others outside the group.. "although humans exhibit strong preferences for equity and moral prohibitions against harm in many contexts, people's priorities change when there is an 'us' and a 'them,'" says rebecca saxe, an associate professor of cognitive neuroscience at mit.
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Some new films from the Chinese World.
by fulltimestudent ini include, in the term, chinese world, not merely the people's republic of china, but all chinese speaking peoples.
note that chinese speaking and chinese accultured people often form significant population segments in other countries.. and please note, that when a story is told visually, we are in the thrall of the story-teller, seeing the world through his/her eyes, seeing what that person has selected for us to see.
a perfectly obvious fact, when the story-teller stood in front of us.
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sarahsmile
hey, thanks! Love foreign films! I like to watch Korea t.v series. Cinderella step sister very good!
I would watch only one! ILo ILo.
Watching someone dress up in a bunny outfit and killing people is not worth watching.
The one about the young couple might be ok, but I not interested in the long conflected stares.
Watching police and boys, not my style.
I Will look forward to ILo ILo.
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Illuminati End-Times Deviled Eggs
by Nathan Natas ini never cease to be impressed by the clear thinking and iron-clad logic of "true buhlevers".
it almost made me writhe with desperation because i am an atheist.
almost... but actually i'm writhing with laughter.. .
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sarahsmile
He lost me at the "painting our lord painted of Mary!" She was a bit strange looking. What was on her sacred dress.
The WT will probably borrow his numerlogy for their new and improved Revelations Book.
That was one of the best mayonnaise commercials ever done.
Crack pot entertainment. Good one!
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Unbalanced way of thinking?
by msconcerned inso, one hot beautiful (not a cloud in the sky) kind of summer day, there was an elder who decided to re shingle his house.
this was on the book study day.
he started early and got all the shingles off of the roof in time for the book study that night.
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sarahsmile
That was a funny story! Call it the way it was, he was a dumb shit! And forever talked about as: do you remember the dumb shit in the rain storm! That would have been a good time to spy on him. Thanks for the laugh.
There was plenty of those kinds of JWs here in the North West. Anything for a laugh it goes way beyond stupidity.
A proclaimer you said,"Right mind", LOL,LOL,LOL!
Everyone comments are too good! Gifted in the mind area! lol yeah but stupid with a tarp,hammer,and nails! no common sense. What kind of gifted mind?Lol!
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August KM: 100 year of Kingdom rule + adverse JW.ORG
by Gorbatchov inthe august km left me stunned.
in the mast head it connects 100 years of kingdom rule via j.f.
rutherford famous "advertise" to the special campain in october for the website jw.org.. how low can we go?!?.
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sarahsmile
Thank you Kate! That helped.
Right on the front page! King and his kingdom!
Rutherfords campaigns were rallys against basically the Catholics. I was surprised how violent the JWs were with there canes.
The KM sure is pushing retirement homes! Elderly.
I guess they will do anything to get their bible studies numbers up! Just had to laugh about it!
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WT admitted "Jehovah" is not God's name...
by Watkins inif i remember right(unlikely, lol) it was a one-page article about the tetragrammaton which concluded by saying that even though "jehovah" was 'probably' not an accurate pronunciation, it is a widely-recognized and accepted english transliteration of the divine name.
i was thinking it was on the last page or maybe the back cover of a wt pub - maybe a watchtower.. can someone please direct me to the publication it was in?
i read it when i was still 'in' and it made me stop and think about how much emphasis the wt puts on that name, all while knowing it's not the name.
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sarahsmile
Yes,the AID book! Also someone has a youtube video on God name.
If you go door to door as Yahweh Witness that would make you from another religion. Might be fun! :-)
Google Yahweh Witness see what you find..Hmm they might be an offshoot of JWs.
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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning
by bsand20 injohn 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.
10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.
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sarahsmile
Neither is 1 Corthians 5 a bases for shunning JW style. JW want somone dfd so the dfd can be a target for others to shun! Compared to let the Jewish person stay home and do not invite him to dinner. :-)
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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning
by bsand20 injohn 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.
10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.
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sarahsmile
Compare Paul's Teary Letter to WT rules and harsh cruel punishment!
Paul actually was anguished over his past letter he wrote in 1 Corthians 5. He cried many tears!
Enough to move him to write to forgive this person.
One more thought in 2 Corinthians 1
23 Moreover I call God as witness against my soul, that to spare you I came no more to Corinth.
It was against his soul! to spare the congregation, why? Because they neglected to forgive! After tgat is his big forgiveness words.
So what ever you think you have done the only thing one needs to do is trust God for forgiveness.
Also, when someone sins the test is on the congregation to forgive because the sinner was immediately forgiven through prayer.
WT seems to neglect this very important concept.
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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning
by bsand20 injohn 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.
10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.
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sarahsmile
So the JW are great with quoting 1 Corthians 5:12 put the wicked man out! or away!
2Corthians 2 - Pauls Teary Letter:
3 And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all. 4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you.
5 But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent—not to be too severe. 6 This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man, 7 so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. 8 Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him. 9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. 10 Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one[a] for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices
As far as I am concerned, Paul had a change of heart after he set matters straight about the law of love. He did not mean to throw everthing away! For example, sex with ones Father's wife and taking her for his own! Most of what is mentioned in 1 Corthians 5 are written in the ten commandments.
So I imagine during Paul's time they were throwing the ten commandments away and praticing a new movement with different laws, "Law of love!"
The point is the JWs do not apply 1 Corthians 5 to 2 Corthians 2. Only until they want to reinstate someone. It misapplied!
Considering one does not throw the wicked person out to mean let them sit in the back row!
Many commentaries call 2 Corthians 2 Paul's "Teary Letter"
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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning
by bsand20 injohn 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.
10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.
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sarahsmile
I do one 1 Corthians 5
Start with 15 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named[ a ] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife!
Gentiles versus what Jewish?
Not too sure but under Jewish law even if the father died, the son could not take his fathers young wife. If the father was a live it is the same.
It would be a disgrace for even the Gentiles son to live with his fathers wife.
Anyhow, no one knows if the father was living or dead.
I think Bart Erdhman actually did a good job explaining what was going on at the time. Christian movement was growing among the Jewish. Maybe, this young guy and many more thought they could do whatever because they were no longer under the law. Everthing goes! Because they as Christians were under the law if law.
By the time letters were written to Paul he could have been angry and shocked. So in 1 Corthians 5 he us anwering what the congeregation should do. Do not eat with such ones. Referring to the son who took his father's wife or such ones.
It took Paul about a year( as you are aware JW dfd they keep the person out for about a year)to realise what he had done! He was feeling anguish a bit if drama!
2 Corinthian about 2. is called Paul's Teary letter!