i'm fairly new here and don't post often, but enjoy reading your posts.
thank you all for sharing your life experiences.
my husband, children and i are not j.w.
I wouldn't find it as easy to decline an offer to say a prayer with them, but I will!
Since you mentioned that you already say grace yourselves on occasion, and since a the best defense is a good offense, tell them you say grace before they mention anything about their prayers.
hi guys.
last week i was involed in a very distressing situation, going with a family to identify their mother who had commited suicide.. we are waiting for the coroner to release the body for the funneral.. but, so far this year a number of jw have commited suicide in england,why???.
can any one throw a light why so many jw of good standing commit suicide,.
It took many years to realized that even thou I was the mother to my mother, that wasnt my place and I had no real experience in taking care of someone who needed so much help. I had to admit to myself, that I couldnt have held her hand everyday, for fear she would die. I grew up that way and it was just a natural part of my life to take care of her.
Children of alcholics and other addicted parents carry this burden with them for many, many years. My father was an alcoholic and my mother the enabler. I was their emotional parent for years. It certainly does take a long time to understand the dysfunctional family dynamics.
((((((((Lyin))))))))
as some of you may know, my wife just left the org a few months ago.
trying to reach her.
it was her ex-po and ex-book study conductor.
It's a dream I hope to fulfill one day .
opening myself up to a lot of criticism...but here goes.. i guess i'm getting more cynical...and losing hope in society in general...here's what bothers me.. when i was a kid back in the 1970's i could walk out the door in the morning...and not come home until supper...and i was safe.
those days are long gone.
as i've stated before...society has become oversexualized...and has lost it's moral compass.
And as for your comments about gays, abortion, obesity, and implying that poor people are not "helping themselves"...
Standpoint theory in the social sciences argues that we all view the world and make judgments from our standpoints, our perspectives, and our experiences. We can't say what we would do if we were someone else, because we are NOT.Are you gay? Are you an ethnic minority? Are you living in true poverty? Have you ever been a 12-year-old pregnant girl? Have you been a single parent in a dangerous neighborhood working two or three jobs to keep a crappy roof over your head? Nope? Me either. I haven't. And so I don't pass judgment or assume I know what it is like to be in those situations. All I'm saying is, it's easy to criticize when you have it easy.
And guess what? Do some research. There is much, much more to obesity than over-eating. Don't make assumptions.(Nope, I'm not obese, either.)
Good points. I like these quotes from A.C. Grayling:
?When moralisers attack liberal legislation on homosexuality, abortion, prostitution, censorship, blasphemy, bastardy, and other like matters, it is their way of manifesting hostility to lifestyles they personally dislike, and of trying to impose instead their own choices, usually in the form of a traditional fantasy of ?family morality??.
?Their true motives are that they are afraid of attitudes and practices more relaxes than they can allow themselves to be ? their timidity, their religious anxieties, their fear that they might themselves be, say, homosexual or libidinous, and a host of personal motives besides, drive them to stop the rest of the world thinking, seeing, or doing what they are afraid to think, see or do themselves.?
?Every age thinks it is in crisis. Things have got worse, people say, clucking their tongues; crime is up, the quality of life down, the world in a mess.?
hi guys.
last week i was involed in a very distressing situation, going with a family to identify their mother who had commited suicide.. we are waiting for the coroner to release the body for the funneral.. but, so far this year a number of jw have commited suicide in england,why???.
can any one throw a light why so many jw of good standing commit suicide,.
Some are walking away from the WT, still belieivng it is the "truth", and are just awaiting their destruction. That is in their mind just another form of suicide, but they are trying to have some kind of life until the God of doom and destruction brings on Armeggedon. I know many people I talk to who think this way.
I felt that way, before I had my eyes opened, so to speak. I didn't want to live in any "paradise earth" if the elders I knew were to be "princes in the earth". I also felt so guilty and unworthy that I figured I'd be bird feed at Armageddon. Glad that burden is off my shoulders.
one of the very real dangers that we face today is the population explosion.
i read that the world's population "now" doubles about every 40 years,
this explosive rate is like cancer,, that no longer follows the proper cell multiplication arrangement in the body and threatens the life of the organism.
If you are a Christian who believes abortion is the murder of an innocent baby then let me ask you this: what happens to the aborted baby's soul? Does it go to heaven? Is it spared from the possibility of going to hell or some equivalent place/state of eternal disapproval or torture?
I was a dub practically all of my life, but the Catholics I'd "preach" to believed unbaptized babies go to limbo or some place like that. Which doesn't really explain anything, I know .....
this is a bit of a spinoff of these two threads:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61698/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/69308/1.ashx.
I have known loads of non-JWs, at school, work, my brother's friends, etc. I don't know of any non-JW within the above-mentioned groups who has committed suicide. I do know of three JWs who did take their own lives. For whatever reason, it's horrid.
hi guys.
last week i was involed in a very distressing situation, going with a family to identify their mother who had commited suicide.. we are waiting for the coroner to release the body for the funneral.. but, so far this year a number of jw have commited suicide in england,why???.
can any one throw a light why so many jw of good standing commit suicide,.
Since she was d/f , and it was a suicide, no brother would do her funeral talk. So in my mind they even punished this poor woman even in death. She still was a believer, a lost person, with no one there with her in her last hours. No cards, no calls, no one was at her funeral because of the situation. No flowers even,,,,,,,,,that is when I broke down,,,,,,because she loved flowers so much. It wasnt fair these fresh flowers and plants, had more life in them than she did. The brothers and sisters didnt even come to the funeral for the sake of me and my husband both of us active , JW's.It took me getting out of the borg,,,,,,,,,to see really how much the local elders, and the ( bad word) @#$% UP JW rules contributed to the total loss of self respect my mother had for herself and her hopeless grief. The anger I have for them will never go away.........but I try to keep it in check, or I would go mad myself.
I tell her story,,,,,,,,,for her sake, out of respect and hoping that others will understand her. It is my personal mission to make sure the WT will be seen and held responsible for the blood they have on their hands.
Lura Anne Davis 1950-1985,,,,,,,faithful JW for over 16 yrs, d/f only for 2 months when she committed suicide.
f&&king hell, now I'm crying and I'm at work, good thing the boss is gone. Gawd almighty Lyin' I'm so sorry for what your mother went through at the hands of those ass-holes.
As long as you tell her story, she still lives, her life wasn't in vain and her grief and suicide are a permanent indictment of the life-sucking WTS rules and regulations and those that impose such on people like your mother.
(((((((((((Lyin' and Lura Anne))))))))))))))))
one of the very real dangers that we face today is the population explosion.
i read that the world's population "now" doubles about every 40 years,
this explosive rate is like cancer,, that no longer follows the proper cell multiplication arrangement in the body and threatens the life of the organism.
Flyin: I wish I could put tone of voice into my posts! I'm not offended, really. If you're ever in my neck of the woods I'll take you out for a drink, alcoholic or non-, your choice (choice - get it? hehe ... and I'm not being sarcastic, I'm sort of giggling right now). And some cheesecake that'll knock your socks off .
tv review / a harrowing tale of survival
story by samantha sarra / xtra!
apr 1 2004 .
Wow, very good. You must be proud! Congratulations.
