Mussings on Society

by Yerusalyim 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Opening myself up to a lot of criticism...but here goes.

    I guess I'm getting more cynical...and losing hope in society in general...here's what bothers me.

    When I was a kid back in the 1970's I could walk out the door in the morning...and not come home until supper...and I was safe. Those days are long gone.

    As I've stated before...society has become oversexualized...and has lost it's moral compass. Sex sells everything...and casual sex now accepted as the norm. More and more the old joke that the definition of a virgin is an ugly third grader seems to be true. The moral outrage at Janet's exposed breast encouraged me a little, but that she thought she could get away with that at all is a sign of what's wrong.

    Don't get me wrong...on pay channels...Do whatever you want...but the broadcast networks should be a little more puritanical.

    I wish we could just combine what was good with the mid 1900's with what's good now. It's great that racism is on it's way out the door...it's a shame that the courts have invented the "right" of a 12 year old to have an abortion without even informing the parents.

    We want to teach our kids to put condoms on...but not to keep their pants on.

    Personal responsibility seems to be going out the door...It must be someone elses fault if anything bad happens. Get fat...sue McDonalds...get cancer...sue Phillip Morris...spill hot coffee...sue McDonalds...get shot...sue the gun manufacturer. Babies have become choices...marriages viewed as temporary living arrangements...and the traditional family scorned.

    It's great that violence and prejudice against gays is waning...and sad that the militant few in the gay community would redefine marriage so as to render it meaningless.

    The helping hand we offered in the great depression has become a demanded...and pandered...entitlement...and God forbid anyone suggest community service of any type in exchange for the helping hand.

    Activist judges have twisted the constitution so out of shape as to be meaningless...the idea that "freedom of speech and the press" would be construed to protected obsenity...would have outraged the founding fathers...the idea that congress not making laws establishing a religion or prohibiting it's free exercise would be construed as a freedom FROM religion is a shame.

    We've become...in the west...too concerned about self...we are self possessed consumers...and it's made for a great economy...but quality of life is down...how many of you know your neighbors...really know them?

    There was a time in this nation when neighbors took care of each other. If I did something wrong and the neighbor saw it...I might have gotten a swat by them...for sure I would have been lectured...and I know my parents would have been informed by phone before I got home...now days kids cuss out teachers...and it's called free speech.

    I realise this has been a ramble of complaints sorry

    Let's have a country where people are not harrassed for having a particular faith...but that the faith of the nation can be freely expressed.

    Defend the traditional family which is the building block of society while protecting the rights of those who don't fit that definition...but don't redefine the traditional family. Kids are better off in a home with two loving parents than in any other situation...yes, I know...not all parents are loving...but...all else being equal..kids are better of with a loving and involved mom and dad than in any other situation.

    Restore a sense of decency...put all the porn you want to on pay tv...sell it...and let it be played on satelite radio...but keep the broadcast airways kid safe.

    Restore a sense of personal responsibility...it's not the dress or shirt making you look fat...it's the 12 twinkies a day you stuff in your face....it's not my mom and dad's fault I'm an alkie...it's mine.

    Teach kids to keep their pants on before teaching them to put condoms on...

    Reserve abortion for medical necessity...not convenience...

    Help people that need it...but make them help themselves too...my money means more to me that I earn than the money I inherit...or that is given me by the government.

    that's all for now...back to your regular program.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    As I've pointed out before:

    conservative = frightened

    It really is that simple, and all it takes is a change of attitude to fix it. Attitude is everything..... and cynicism is not smart, btw.

    Circle the wagons if you must. If you'll just pop your head up for a minute, you'll find out that you are not surrounded.

    There ya go, there's your criticism.

  • Valis
    Valis

    too bad this isn't an April Fool's joke..

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    SIX,

    Conservative = Frightened? Liberal then would equal...I don't know what...head in the sand? My only fear is that liberals will completely control society some day...in which case I'd be arrested for thinking that the traditional family is the best family (all things being equal).

    No, being conservative equals valueing all that is best about society. It's not fear that motivates me to want the broadcast airways to be a little more pure...it's wanting what's best for our society. It's not fear that motivates me to want kids to keep their pants...for society to be less sexual...it's my desire to eliminate poverty (single motherhood is an express ticket to poverty).

    Wanting to keep what was good from 50 years ago and move forward with what is good today is not fear based at all. But, as it doesn't fit the liberal agenda of anything goes (unless it contradicts the liberal agenda) you want to attack it with meaningless labels like "fear."

  • itsallgoodnow
    itsallgoodnow

    From what I can tell, so many things have changed for the better instead of the worse, and you can't be too sure that morals are worse now than before, just that things are being talked about more openly than before.

    There's nothing wrong with being cynical, btw.

  • acsot
    acsot

    Aw Yeru why you so sad?

    I actually don't agree with half of what you said (that damn liberal secular humanist part of me is shrieking to get out ) but it's so much more fun to see you arguing and trading verbal punches with Funky and Abaddon rather than this wistful melancholy. This is not good. Gosh almighty, you've thrown the whole board off balance .

    Anything in particular happen?

  • TD
    TD

    I agree with much of what you've said Yeru. I don't think it's just a manifestation of the "things were better in our day" type of nostalgia either.

    I suppose it would be fair to say that some of it could be ascribed to fear. In line with your opening statement, I certainly fear for the safety of my child in a way that my parents never did. However I don't see this particular fear as a liberal vs. conservative issue because I believe that in truth, both sides have legitimate fears.

    As an example, I remember being on the high school rifle team. This was only about 35 years ago. When I took an advanced woodworking class the same year, at least half the students, myself included, made rifle stocks as our project. When it came time to fit the stock and bed the barrel, the instructer, who was an accomplished gunsmith himself, let the students actually bring the rifles (sans bolts) into class. Nobody gave it a second thought. The idea that a student would go on a rampage was far from everyone's mind including the students themselves.

    Today, even in the most rural areas, school rifle teams are a distant memory, a teacher that allows a student to bring any part of a firearm whatsoever to school would be fired in a heartbeat and a student that so much as brings an empty, decapped shellcasing into class is liable to be expelled. Who's afraid here?

    I'd say both liberals and conservatives are rightly afraid and that their fears dovetail. As a conservative I am more afraid of the changes in society that I believe contribute to the reality of events like the Columbine massacre than I am of inanimate objects themselves. To me, motive and its associative causes are far more to be feared than means.

    At the same time though, I understand that one may see it differently, even when this perspective manifests itself irrationally as a fear of an empty, harmless piece of brass. If our children are going to school with souless cold-blooded killers with no respect for life, then naturally we would want to do what we can to deprive them of any means to carry out their desires. No one after all, regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative wants to see their children come to harm.

  • Atilla
    Atilla
    Today, even in the most rural areas, school rifle teams are a distant memory, a teacher that allows a student to bring any part of a firearm whatsoever to school would be fired in a heartbeat and a student that so much as brings an empty, decapped shellcasing into class is liable to be expelled. Who's afraid here?

    No offense, but thank goodness school rifle teams are a distant memory, I couldn't imagine attending one of those classes. Then again, I wasn't really allowed to attend any extra classes but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be something involving making a gun stock. The whole picture reminds me of Bowling For Columbine where Moore gets a gun at a bank for opening an account. You see guns and banks and guns and schools just don't mix.

  • TD
    TD

    You see guns and banks and guns and schools just don't mix.

    In today's society, guns and schools certainly don't mix. You're absolutely right. But things were very different back when the book From Paradise Lost To Paradise Regained was capable of scaring the living tar out of a child.

  • boa
    boa

    dare i comment on the gun subject?

    being a northern cousin to the US and a northern bro to the city folks in canada, i believe in, support and will actively teach my children firearms education and their proper usage as a tool and as an piece of equipment used in sport.

    it is very complex to understand why people act out their frustrations and problems with physical violence and the tool used is not the reason why but rather a means to an end.

    i believe statistics will show that common kitchen knives kill far more people than firearms, so are they next on the list along with bats, sticks and really bad gas? The ol' ban 'bad' dogs versus irresponsible owners.

    many many firearms injuries and deaths could be prevented by educating our children from very young on how to safely use firearms or at least their correct purpose and by safe and proper storage of them

    just a thought from the other side, don't throw anything too hard this way!

    boa

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