Welcome Carla! I am truly sorry how you and your daughter were treated by JW elders. You were referred right. We are from same life. You and your daughter are safe here.
blindnomore
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I am referred here Because you and I are from same life
by unchained1963 ina member suggested this i am disassociated 3 years and divorced one with a life of hell marriage and brain washed but worn out fighting to get back that is nothing but a bunch of back stabbing people in that organization, brain washed and taught to divide familys, they want you in but not, its like football with them same type of plays.
i now have found people where i go that doesn't teach love the live this.
i had a abusive marriage, was wife of elder and 3 kids who lived hell because i was to follow the submission of a wife.
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I Need Attorney Who Understands JW Mindset in FL
by CrimsonBleu ini need help with a big problem with my sister (jw) who has been removing money from my moms bank account and saving it for her 'needs'.
i am moms poa, and apostate, and she refuses to let me see the account or have access to these funds on the premise i will 'blow every dime' if she does.
mom lives with me for almost three years now.
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blindnomore
There should be an Elderly abuse hotline. Contact them and the Police. Your sister is embezzling her mom's money. It's a crime unless your mom consented.
The JW couple who were her mom's POA was arrested for embezzlement for emptying their mom's bank account. It was on the paper and on TV news at the time. A non-JW daughter of an elderly reported it to the Police. The scumbag was an elder.
For an Attorney, contact Mr. Zalkin at 856-724-1001 or Davin Storey at 858-259-3011 for an advise and/or a referral. They are JWs abuse case experts in Sandiago, CA. They should be able to direct you to a right attorney in your area. Or you could google for an attorney who handles religious and/or elderly abuse or embezzlement.
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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...
by RayPublisher inwell i figured i should give you all an update.
they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.
it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.
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blindnomore
@Blindnomore - Thanks bro, that's a great juggling joke.
Ray, I am a female. Do you remember a mean Asian girl from a Tahoe apostafest?
Anyway, Good that you are keeping records and documenting them. Keep the all the records. That's what I did. My records are about to kick those guys' ass****...
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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...
by RayPublisher inwell i figured i should give you all an update.
they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.
it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.
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blindnomore
as they pile one more "spiritual martyr" onto the holocaust of people they have spiritually executed.
(It's all SOOO DRAMATIC lol!)
I have a fellow feeling for you. I had gone through the same religious Inquistion followd by 2 and an half years of witch hunt. This was happening while I was still attending meetings. The stress level was beyond me. I felt Jehovah's protection when I was finally disfellowshipped. I was so relieved not being their target anymore. The only regret I have was that I didn.t get to tell them off, since I was still a true believer at the time.
Good for you letting your light shine before the evil slave and coming out publicly. You are taking your power back!
Want to hear a joke? You might appreciate this since you were juggling identies for soo long.
Cop stops this guy for speeding in a Van. Cop asks whats in the back of the van. Guy says I am a circus preformer and my props are in the back. Cop says can I see them. Guy says ok. Cops looks in back and sees the big long knives and asks what do you do with these? Guy says I am a juggler. Cop says prove it juggle for me. Guy says sure and starts his act. Just then a guy and his wife are passing by and this guy has had too much to drink and sees the guy juggling knives at the side of the road and the cop watching. He says to his wife I gotta stop dringkiing the sobriety test is getting way too hard.
I know you juggled the knives at Tahoe, btw I like jw struggle
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Is any one paid in the organization?
by ecuador inhi, i am learning about jws, and would like to know if any of their leaders, circuit overseers, district overseers, etc.
are paid.
also, who owns the kingdom hall buildings and furnishings in them?
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blindnomore
ecuador, Are you an investigator or a government agent? Were you told by the Watchtower Legal Department about Jehovah's Witnesses elders legal tie with its Headquator?
You don't have to answer the above questions. I think you know where I am going with it, if your answeres are "yes."
As everyone have clarified, Circuit Overseer(CO), District Overseer(DO), GB(Governing Body), Special Pioneer, and Bethelites are paid ministers. They are therefore direct representitives of the Watchtower Society. The Watchtower is liable for these indivisuals' church activites.
As far as concerning the JW elders, they are not paid ministers but are representing the Watchtower locally therefore the Watchtower is liable for them as well. The elders are appointed by and granted absolute authority over their local members from Watchtower leaders directly. The Watchtower Legal Department has mislead the Government agencies(in the USA) about local elders not being representives of the Watchtower Organization since they are non paid volunteer ministers. Such claim is designed to avoid legal liabilities and mislead the secular authorities.
A JW man was told by the Appeal Committee of Jehovah's Witnesses Judicial Hearing that he was guilty of talking against the Watchtower Organization by talking against Wathctower's appointed elder. This man was found guilty of talking against the Watchtower therefore and was disfellowshipped. Bottom line, JW elders=the Watchtower Organization. Don't let any Watchtower Organization's double tongue tell you otherwise.
As we all have learned from Candace Conti's case, the Watchtower is also liable for their Rank & File's actions for the damage caused to another members due to church policies.
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I Could Really Use A Friend
by Hargitay inhave been in the austin area for a little over a week in the midst of trying to start over.
i was df'd recently after being in the truth my entire life.
everyone has abandoned me, and i am lost out here.
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blindnomore
Do you have a phone? Check your PM in a few minutes.
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I Could Really Use A Friend
by Hargitay inhave been in the austin area for a little over a week in the midst of trying to start over.
i was df'd recently after being in the truth my entire life.
everyone has abandoned me, and i am lost out here.
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blindnomore
What Annoy Mous said. You are entitle to half what you and your spouse owe. You were terribly wronged by your wife and JWs. Pleas go to the police. The Police would accompany you to your home and would oversee the situation.
Where are all the texans when someone need help? Would any of you go check on him?
Hargitay, PM me for further assistance. I have a friend who was in your situation when she first left Organization. She went back her house accompanied by the police and got her home back from her husband.
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Question from Japan about "probation seat"
by jwstudy indear friends, this is my first post.. i like to ask all of you about custom among j.w.. .
i am from japan.
i have noticed several times in japan.
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blindnomore
JWstudy, Are you a native Japanese or an immigrant?
I am from Far East who live in the USA. I have learned some differences in policy among Jehovah's Witnesses from different cultures.
Witnesses in my native Country, Asians, are more strict on procedure, more authoritative and tend to set rules for others instead of left to indivisual conscience. For instance, in my native Country, you are restricted eating foods that were offered to ritual(ie, ancestor worship) and practices of sterilization are banned. This was late 80's and early 90's. I was very confused upon learning the different JW policies on some of the core belief. Here in the US, these were/are the conscience matters(although the Watchtower has flip flop on sterilization).
Yes, I can picture Japanese authoritative elders arranging "probation seat" for df'ed ones. Llyod Berry was a head of Branch Committee in Japan for many years before becoming a member of Governing Body. I saw this Japanese influence from Berry in Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom.
I am df'ed and used to seat in the middle of front rows and stared at speakers throughout meetings. Not one elders have courage to eye contact with me for 2 years. They know they are loser and coward for what they did.
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HOW TO IDENTIFY THE TRUE RELIGION
by Fifth Column injesus said that the true religion would be evident in the lives of the people who practice it.
by their fruits you will recognize them, he said.
every good tree produces fine fruit.
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blindnomore
No, Jehovah's Witnesses are not hypocrites of any sort. Jehovah's Witnesses have no more "rules" than the Bible dictates, and follow two basic principles as outlined by Jesus: love of God and love of neighbor. said Fifth.
Shouldn't your love for God move you to give your exculsive devotion to God only? Jehovah's Witnesses have deified the Governing Body and Body of Elders above God and Jesus. Open your publications, song book and attend JW meetings. The GB and BOE worships are everywhere.
Shouldn't your love of neighbor move you to take care of your own at least?(1Timothy 5:3-8) I am a disfellowshipped ex-JW. Some of my weekly routines are taking an elderly JW woman for a grocery shoping and take her and her husband to doctor appointments. Besides check on them once or twice a week. The elderly couple has family and extended family in the local JW Congregation. Some of them are elders, ministerial servants. regular pioneers, and publishers. Unfortunitely non of their JW families are availble to take care their elderly mother, father, uncle, aunt, grandma, grandfa, and spiritual sister & brother in their needs of old age. It's a sad situation.
What is your definition of love of God and love of neighbor?
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Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos
by Balaamsass inthis weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.
it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.
cow palace which is still used..just not as much.
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blindnomore
Watchtower did the same thing here. The Circuit Overseer interviewed 2 convicted child abusers as exemplary elders at the assembly and persecuted the victim, victim's family and those who aware of the conviction instead.
The $multi-million$ lawsuit awards might help adjust their thinking on that.