Prayer is personal, there are no "requirements". In my opinion, thankfullness to our creator is a virtue. If you have done something generous for someone you love, does it matter how many times or when they say thank you? It feels good to be appreciated but people have different ways of showing their appreciation, there are no rules about thankfulness.
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Do you give thanks for every meal?
by bruh indo you give thanks for every meal or do you thank god once for the whole day of meals???
is thanking god for every meal scriptural or something that came along in early christianity ?
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Did you suffer humiliating childhood experiences as a JW?
by yadda yadda 2 inin john cedar's (jwsurvey.org) latest excellent article on his blog about a us teacher that got reprimanded for trying to force a jw boy to salute the american flag, he relates a similar childhood experience where he was terribly humiliated at school in view of his classmates.. this reminded me of a similar humiliating experience i suffered at school, when i was 11 years old.
during our school's end of year 'prom night' (not actually called that in the country i live) which was in the style of a disco night, my unbalanced jw mother came to pick me up early and stormed right into the hall and grabbed my arm and pulled me out in front of all my friends right in the middle of the dancing.
on the way out she gave the teachers a lecture about the music being far too loud and how unwholesome the whole thing was for children of my age.
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These stories make me feel so sad that I'm crying. I don't know why. I always felt ok about being "separate" and no one was especially mean about any of it. If kids made comments I would usually let it roll off my back. But I remember always being sent to the library during holiday stuff. I also remember the way it felt internally to sit every morning while everyone else saluted the flag. About holidays and birthdayds, I remember always telling people that I didn't feel left out, that it was fine with me, it was what I wanted. I remember hiding out in the bathroom during middle school when the pep rally's started. All the witness parents got together and decided we were not to attend. My parents were totally against school spirit. The list of things that were "wrong" was so long. I really did feel very different but I felt that it was ok because it was what was "right". Now when I think back, all I have to do is remember what it felt like to put my hand up and state my position or tell another student and I get this twisty feeling in my stomach automatically :(
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why?
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Is it just me...
by Freeof1914 ini haven't been on this site for as long as many of you, but when i first started it just felt like much more supportive and constructive.
as of late though it just seems to be a very toxic and argumentative place to be.
i speak for myself and i believe others as well, when i say that some of us need a place where we can vent, speak our minds freelym and not feel attacked.
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ohnightdivine, I do the same thing. I try not to even read the stuff that will bring me down. Lately the debates actually made me feel disappointed that maybe posters weren't who I thought they were in my head and when I realized how silly it was to feel disappointed in people I do not actually know, it made me just let it go.
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JW Apolgist rant here...and confession.
by Julia Orwell ini really don't like people disparaging active jws on this site by calling them stupid, idiots, morons and that, and making out like they're willing puppets to the gb or cruel at heart.
or describing them like they're puke or as having no desire to learn or listen.. to you, all these things may be true.
we all have opinions and are entitled to them.
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Well said Julia, thanks for posting. I think name calling and all that jazz is counter productive.
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Hear Ye!!!Hear Ye!! WONDERFUL GOOD NEWS!!!!
by mouthy inmy jw daughter called me this afternoon!!!!!
!i am just over the moon.
her hubby not a jw has cancer & was operated on today!!!!.
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So glad you heard from your daughter <3 that is wonderful
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Would YOU force blood on a Witness?
by stillin ini was recently chastised here for saying that i respected my wife's steadfast loyalty to her god.
suppose you were a medical assistant and your doctor/supervisor told you to hang blood on a witness patient?
zero respect?.
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If I had the opportunity I would make sure they or their decision making family knew all the facts about their own doctrine. Its strange but there was over a year where my husband "woke-up" and I hadn't and I despised all his newfound information (including seeing him openly hang out on this sight!) feeling that he was being decieved and misguided. One of his major issues was the "blood issue" and while I was very angry and upset at him for abandoning this doctrine on the outside, I was internally relieved knowing that I would never have to make a stand for this issue regarding our children. You would have never known it from my external reaction...the mind-grip is amazing.
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Branch Organization Manual! download .....
by notgoinback inas my second post on this forum, i want to share this with you guys!
this is the official branch organization manual (updated 2003) of jehovah's witnesses:.
http://jhonlemos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/branch-organization-watchtower.pdf.
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The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped
by slimboyfat infrom the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".
nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.
murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?
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@ Mouthy I am so happy it was encouraging to you ! I read your posts all the time and love them :) For a very long time I have not had the courage to post in here but its getting better all the time. Someday I will post our story in full just to purge myself of all the trauma...reading about what other people have experienced has helped me not feel alone in all of this..and its nice to contribute a little for a change
@problemaddict We live in the eastern US. Also the elders book outlines most of these issues in some way. Its available in PDF online. It covers a lot of these things...what can be judicial and what is not.....there are grey areas too....leaving some things up to the elders to decide if its they want to form a "committee" (such loaded language!) And they do have schools where they write "additional instructions" in the margins...I think someone else already mentioned that. Some things like Birthdays and 4th of July and Thanksgiving are not Judicial under the Holiday section because it specifies religious holidays only but could fall under the new "Brazen Conduct" clause which could be almost anything. So some things officially like Birthdays, non-religious holidays, and even voting would not be a judicial matter outrightly, But and that is a big But, if it is considered "Brazen Conduct" than it could be. What was really interesting to me was the part in there that if an elder had committed a judicial offense but considerable time had passed since he had committed the offense then he wouldn't necessarily be removed as an elder...so keep it a secret for a long time and then confess and not only may you not risk disfellowshipping you may not even be removed!
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The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped
by slimboyfat infrom the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".
nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.
murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?
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I dont think this was mentioned but I was disfellowshipped for "the appearance of fornication" meaning that we never "did" anything...he was a total gentleman...we only cuddled and kissed and hands didnt stray and clothes stayed on. they asked very invasive questions like they asked him "were you aroused when you were kissing her"? we kept late hours and didnt have chaperone so it was decided that we would both be disfellowshipped for "the appearance of fornication" because neighbors or whomever who saw me leaving so late/early would think that we had.....totally ludricrous to me now but at the time we took it so seriously...we got married before the announcement so as "not to appear to fornicate" any longer... I was 18 he was 21 we were reinstated 6 months later. we did not wake up until 2-3 years ago. the silver lining is that we just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary and are still in love and happy...and have 4 great kids to show for it.