the lies of the org continue, i was reading revelation and i came accross rev 19:6 in their bible and its states "and i heard a loud voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders.
they said: praise jah, you people, because jehovah our god, the almighty has begun to rule as king.
" then my first thought, what does it acctually say in their greek interlinear because at rev.
CrazyGuy:
Check out this reference here. It is the NICNT-Revelation commentary (G. K. Beale). Click on where it says "Front Cover." In the drop down list click on page "972" and then scroll backwards to page 932. There it discusses the OT background to God 'beginning to reign' as a consequence of his subdueing his enemies. There is also a sub-title on "temporal questions" and the Greek in the text of Revelation at 19:6.
Bobcat
there is great enthusiasm in many congregations in regard to the wonderful new way to sit around wasting time in the "ministry".
so much easier than trotting from door to door.
however, some who set up the literature/jw.org carts have noticed a disturbing phenomena:.
OTWO, thanks for the response. You're right about starting time right out the door of the KH. They'll call a study to make sure they are home. The clock starts . . .
Bobcat
not sure if anyones posted on this topic, but it just hit me that if jesus thousand year reign started in 1914 then we are already 10% way though and no "sign of the end" yet.
can the wtbts really hold out much longer?
are we going to have to wait for 3014 for them to admitt they got it wrong?.
not sure if anyones posted on this topic, but it just hit me that if jesus thousand year reign started in 1914 then we are already 10% way though and no "sign of the end" yet.
can the wtbts really hold out much longer?
are we going to have to wait for 3014 for them to admitt they got it wrong?.
so today's study is all about being kindly, and not judgemental to those in the congregation....we don't know their circumstances etc.... i can't believe the hypocrisy being spewed out...both in the article and by means of the answers from the audience!.
we know the reality is so different!
unless a witness does everything exactly as the gb directs...in every aspects of life, they are effectively no longer a good person, but are viewed as spiritually lacking or weak..... they are going directly beyond the biblical directives, and being ones who condemn, rather than ones who commend!.
The comment that came to my mind was regarding the opening picture which seems to show a mother/daughter late for the meeting and a couple behind them looking judgemental about it. The article was trying to get the idea across that we should not be like that judgemental couple.
In reality, the CO and elders talk at other times about how disrespectful to Jehovah it is when people show up late for the meetings. My comment (in my mind) was how 'strong' this mother had to really be to be arriving late, knowing that, by showing up late (for whatever reason), she had already been condemned by the CO/elders as 'disrespectful of God.'
The article, by itself, was not that bad. The reality is often different, even by those 'taking the lead.'
transglutaminase is often used in the formation of meats -- including expensive cuts of meat, skinless sausages, chicken, and fish -- as well as in the preparation of some dairy products such as some cheese and yoghurt, and in tofu, which vegetarians consume.. transglutaminase, also known as "meat glue" is often created from a coagulating product in the blood of pigs or cattle.
factor viii, which blood product the wts permits, is one such transglutaminase.. has the wts made any public statements regarding the widespread use of this product?
or does its permission to use sub-particles of blood cover the use of "meat glue"?.
so today's study is all about being kindly, and not judgemental to those in the congregation....we don't know their circumstances etc.... i can't believe the hypocrisy being spewed out...both in the article and by means of the answers from the audience!.
we know the reality is so different!
unless a witness does everything exactly as the gb directs...in every aspects of life, they are effectively no longer a good person, but are viewed as spiritually lacking or weak..... they are going directly beyond the biblical directives, and being ones who condemn, rather than ones who commend!.
there is great enthusiasm in many congregations in regard to the wonderful new way to sit around wasting time in the "ministry".
so much easier than trotting from door to door.
however, some who set up the literature/jw.org carts have noticed a disturbing phenomena:.
Does anyone know the 'company policy' for these carts? Do the JWs that man them begin their time the moment they set them up? Or do they have to wait for the first contact?
most random people who knock on the door politely introduce themselves when you open the door.. for example "hello, i'm derick from unicef and i'm looking for donations blah blah blah".
now annoying as it may be for some at least he had the courtesy to introduce himself.. why don't jw's do this?
is it because they are embarressed or perhaps they know you won't take their literature if they do?.
The OPs question becomes even more interesting to me when you consider that the Society is always counseling children in school and those at work to be quick to identify themselves as JWs. Doing so is presented as a protection from various moral dangers. Yet, when it comes to FS, the opposite is practiced. All well-trained pioneers will remind you in service that we don't tell the householder that we are JWs. At least not initially.
was it really put up to help doctors and patients deal with the blood issue or to talk more jws in to taking fractions components and hemopure?.
Crazyguy:
I remember a situation in our hall (it was a few years back when I was an elder), an elderly sister went into the hospital because she was sick and her blood count was dropping. The HLC talked them into trying hemopure (I think that was what it was - it was made of bovine blood at the time) but the sister adamantly refused. As far as she was concerned it had blood in it so it was out of the question. My position with the sister (who I had been visiting at the hospital) was to support whatever decision she chose.
I remember an HLC brother calling me an expressing exasperation with the sister for being unwilling to take the stuff. Eventually another elder talked her into taking it.
The things that stood out for me at the time was the fact that the sister's conscientous stand meant nothing to these brothers. Supposedly these kind of things fall into a grey area that we are to decide individually based on our conscience. (That is the company line at least.) But the HLC and some of the other elders (probably taking the same view as the HLC) saw it as their job to change this sister's viewpoint.
This was probably one of the early things that were starting my wake-up. (I see no problem with blood now, but at the time what stood out was the trampling on the sister's conscience.)
I remember someone else on here saying that their CO took the position that you should be agreeable to the allowable fractions unless you could come up with a very good reason not to. (This may not be the exact thread but it has the idea I was expressing.)
Bobcat
