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  How is Babylon the Great a kingdom in Revelation 17:18?

  by jwdoctrine in

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  in revelation 17:18 we read: "and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”.

  the watchtower's official position is that babylon the great is the worldwide false religion and nothing else but we never really think of babylon the great as a real country with physical borders and citizens?

  i just finished writing an article on that, let me know what you think.how can babylon be a kingdom over other kingdoms in the last days?.

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  If you take it in the context within which it was written, it could not be referring to America or the RC church. The angel who announces that 'she has fallen' (Rev 18:2-4) is speaking to John in the 1st century and using the aorist tense, as if this is something that has already happened and encouraging "my people" to get out of her before her plagues arrive.. The USA and Christian institutions had not yet come into existence at that point in time. Isaiah chapter 2 better fits the situation described in Rev 18:2-4. According to NT writers, the "last days" corresponds with the whole of the Christian era starting with Jesus' first advent. (Heb 1:1-2)

  On the idea that it might picture the USA, there was a fictional book that took it that way, called Alas, Babylon (here).
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  Make the Truth Your Own

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is something that hit me just relatively recently.. the phrase "make the truth your own" is a very famous catch phrase in jw culture.

  it was a pet philosophy of daniel sydlik and has been used and is used in talks, literature and song.

  every witness knows this trope.

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  A marked variance of this core truth which a Witness may meditate upon given the Memorial ‘season’ is the Watchtower teaching that our own physical death releases us from our sins.

  This falsehood is reflected in the NWT's mis-translation of Rom 6:7. We had a thread here a while back discussing this. I think Searcher started that thread, if I'm not mistaken.
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  "DO NOT look here! Seriously...just dont!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, so you all looked here??.

  this thread is prompted by losch's stupid 'decrees' in the march 2018 broadcast, where he denounced online information that may be 'negative' about the organization.. it strikes me that the gb are so dumb!

  the moment someone says "dont look at something", human curiousity will make most people look.

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  I see another irony in their words, given that they claim to be champions of the Bible:

  21Also, do not pay attention to everything that people say;
  otherwise, you might even hear your servant cursing you.
  22For you know in your own heart
  that you also have cursed others many times. (Eccl 7:21-22 NET)
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  Today's WT Paragraph 4

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thought that this little gem deserved a thread of it's own.. 4. why is it important for us to be present at the memorial if at all possible?.

  4 reflect on the importance of attending the memorial.

  remember, congregation meetings are part of our worship.

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  All that despite the fact that no where in the NT is the Lord's Evening Meal described as:

  A yearly occasion, or the most important meeting,

  Nor is any Christian meeting described that way.

  Romans 14:5, in fact, says quite the opposite. And Galatians 4:10-11 decries the setting up of "seasons" such as a "memorial season."
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  Memorial Invitation 2018 : Subliminal Message ?

  by jwdoctrine in

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  2. friends

  http://jwdoctrine.com/memorial-invitation-2018-demonic-subliminal/.

  memorial invitation : subliminal message.

  at first glance, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the invitation but on closer look a disturbing detail becomes apparent.it is in the upper right corner of the illustration of jesus christ celebrating the last supper with his disciples in the upper room...there seem to be trees outside the window but on closer inspection, all thanks to the pdf format of the invitation that allows you a very close look down to the fine detail, these are not trees but letters!!!.

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  The WT believes that Judas had already left before Jesus passed the bread and wine. I'm not saying he did, but the WT is emphatic about that. So the man below the tree branches is probably not intended by the illustrators to be Judas.
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  Facts Don't Win Fights: Here’s How to Cut Through Confirmation Bias

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  finding common ground more likely to work.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyiozodhkbe.

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  What she is suggesting is also called "framing the issue." See here and look at the segment entitled "Step 5 Avoid Using Opponents' Frames, Even to Dispute Them."

  
  
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  Please explain!

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

  it doesn't make sense to me.

  bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

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  For a different look at Dan chapter 4 see my thesis on this thread (here).
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  Watchtower Cult Given $81,000 by City of Salem

  by rrb2016 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can you imagine how much money they must make off of all the assemblies?

  i counted at least 211 between this week and end of the year.

  if they get paid by each city.... .

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  A Question of Adultery

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  question: if a jw married lady is accused of adultery and a judicial committee is formed to investigate the matter, is the lady's jw husband also invited to attend as the possibly injured party?.

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  Just a technical note: A JC would not be formed to investigate whether someone committed adultery (or anything else for that matter). Normally two elders would be assigned to investigate an accusation. If they find evidence of serious sin they would inform the BOE and a JC would be formed to determine if there is sufficient evidence of repentance. The JC would assume guilt unless something came up during the JC meeting. The KS book says "accused" for CYA reasons.
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  Is the USA too big?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. current

  fred deftone on another thread about the tragic events at m. stoneman douglas school:.

  the us constitution wasn't written for 50 states either.

  the country has gotten too big and i think the solution is fragmentation.

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  Zeb, the Russian scholar is Igor Panarin. Google him. Wikipedia has an article that explains his thinking. The Kremlin was interested enough to hear him out. If I remember correctly, he was worried that a US break up might go bad for the world at large, depending on how it occurred.