Posts by Bobcat

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Is it true that they decided not to build Walkill Recreation center and then buried the foundation?

by Indian Larry in

i saw this on ex jw reddit:"this may not be news to you but it was to me.

forgive me if this has already been posted before.

it came from a reliable source working on the warwick project.. wallkill bethel had broken ground and laid the foundation for a new recreation building.

Bobcat

IL:

I don't have any more info to add, so I'm also waiting to hear if anyone else does.

Having said that, the story, if true, gives me the sense that they see a rather intense financial difficulty looming for them.

Bobcat

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1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

by berrygerry in

1914the turning point in history.

30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

Bobcat

berrygerry:

I started a thread (here) with almost the identical name back in February 2015 ... no wait, 2014 (my, how time flies!).

It was based on a comparison of the idea of 1914 being the ultimate turning point in history (per the WT) versus what Paul said in Acts 17:30, 31.

Bobcat

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Full 2015 Annual Meeting Program

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plrw9u-n1z2m8peenfmbdxmvbdkum0ce1n.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppgsfl6o5k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j8ivkmkvk.

Bobcat

That 3rd speaker, who I think is Lett. He has the strangest facial contortions, hard to watch.

He reminds me somewhat of Red Skelton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7O9vqsYPs

Bobcat

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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

by mentallyfree31 in

who were your past circuit overseers?

i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

Bobcat

James Jack:

Thomas Rucker - Stilled talked about in this area after leaving here 2 years ago. A real people person

I agree to. Larry & Susie were also very good. Recently retired from CO work now. I imagine Tom must also be near retirement too.

Most of the new ones I see seem to be pure company men. Some have their good points, yet, married to the bOrg, thru and thru.

Bobcat

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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

by mentallyfree31 in

who were your past circuit overseers?

i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

Bobcat

Tom Rucker

Larry and Susie King

Bobcat

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2015 RC Drama about Jesus.

by DATA-DOG in

i have to admit, aside from the "choose your own" doctrine aspect, the video was pretty well made.

well, for the wtbts.

they are behind the mormons and the lds, but it wasn't too bad.

Bobcat

Data, one of the things that stood out to me was the statement near the beginning of part 1, and repeated near the end of part 2, that it was 'necessary to believe that JWs had the truth' (or that 'these events about Jesus proved that JWs had the truth.')

Did you notice that also? There were statements that Jesus' miracles gave proof to his Messiah-ship (is that a word?). And these fit in with the 2 part video. But the statements that 'JWs have the truth' (regardless of the veracity of such statements) - they were like, out of nowhere. Nothing in the videos had anything to do with JWs.

These statements seemed to be inserted as a sort of audio subliminal messaging. There was no time to analyze the statements as to what they had to do with the videos (which, in fact, they had nothing to do with them).

Other than that, like you said, the videos were pretty well done. Seeing Jesus cry (in connection with Lazarus' death), and seeing him hug his disciples before he left earth were quite moving scenes.

Bobcat

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I now hate being called 'sister'

by purrpurr in

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friends

since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.

but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".

it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.

Bobcat

I checked a Greek concordance (for the NT) on the use of "brother(s)" (Greek adelphos, Strong's # 80). Curiously enough, of the 343 uses of the word in the NT there aren't any examples of a first person address, "brother so-and-so," except one: Acts 9:17 (and Acts 22:13, which is Paul's retelling of what Ananias said in 9:17).

But the example in Acts 9:17 may have been Ananias' timid/careful approach to someone (Saul) that he knew to be a cruel persecutor (compare Acts 9:10-17). So it is a sort of one-off.

Fellow Christians, fellow countrymen and family are otherwise all spoken of, or addressed, on various occasions as "brother(s)" without any name added.

The norm for direct address to an individual was to speak to them using their name ("first name" in modern lingo).

I also admit to feeling odd being referred to in public (away from the KH) as "Brother Last-name." It makes me feel like people will think I live in a monastery. Yet it is so ingrained. There is a sister who recently started working where I work, She started calling me "Brother Last-name" (at work) but I told her just call me "Bobcat." Now she doesn't call me anything. She talks to me, but she doesn't address me in any way. It is almost like she isn't able to refer to me in any way except "Brother Last-name."

Bobcat

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Well written, scathing article that summarises first 3 days of RC hearing.

by Pants of Righteousness in

there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.

just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.

the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.

Bobcat

Wow! Quite an article. (I also learned a few new words (e.g. "gormless")

Bobcat

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Big Concepts That JWs Won't Even Allow Themselves To Consider

by JW_Rogue in

because of the belief that the bible is quite literally the word god jws must shut out many logical concepts and theories.

it's not just evolution although that is a large one.

i know when i was in there were certain concepts that made sense to me but i would try not to think about them too much.

Bobcat

The evolution/creation book had a picture in it of a building (the UN building I think) with the caption saying something like, 'explosions don't make buildings.' It was trying to relate that to the idea that the 'big bang' theory could not possibly be right.

I told one sister that in fact everything (including that building) was made with explosions or 'explosive-like' processes. Boy, did I get a weird look.

Bobcat

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Looking for some Easy ttatt ideas

by Crazyguy in

i was hoping to share maybe a scripture or two with my kids where they could see the obvious problems with the jw doctrine, any ideas?

Bobcat

I had a thread on 1914 using Acts 17:30, 31 - here.

Regarding the supposed "new" scrolls of Rev 20:12, you might have a look at John 12:47, 48 and Rom 2:14-16. Both passages refer to what people would be judged on during "that day." In contrast, the WT consistently describes the scrolls of Rev 20:12 as something that will be new then. To me it says something about their lack of understanding of the good news. (Your mileage may vary.)

Bobcat