Thanks sir82 for the extra insight.
Posts by Bobcat
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12Explain the annual meeting please
by carla incan someone please explain the annual meeting to me?
it takes place tomorrow from what i gather.
does this mean they still do fs in the morning?
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Explain the annual meeting please
by carla incan someone please explain the annual meeting to me?
it takes place tomorrow from what i gather.
does this mean they still do fs in the morning?
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Bobcat
If I understand correctly, the "annual meeting" is something corporations do to keep shareholders up to date on how the 'business' is doing. It might even be government mandated. See here and here.
In the case of the WT, they have always held these. Its just that the R&F would always find out about what happened afterwards. But with KHs having video equipment now, the WT invites the R&F to watch (and donate).
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KH dedication
by stan livedeath incorrect me if i'm wrong--.
when a new-build or existing property is acquired for use as a kingdom hall----is it still the custom to have a sort of "dedication to jehovah" type of service ?.
if it is--what happens when the property is sold ?
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Bobcat
if it is--what happens when the property is sold ? is it de-dedicated ?
This is interesting. When it comes to dedication and baptism, the Society says a person's dedication cannot be recalled or undone. Building 'dedications' on the part of the Society are a sham.
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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14
by The Fall Guy invirtually every j.w.
will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.
crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.
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Bobcat
Hi Fall Guy,
If you are interested take a look at my posts on this thread (on another site), and especially this post which tries to show how Mt 24:14 and Mt 24:31 complement each other. (Mt 24:14 fulfilled before the Roman-Jewish War; Mt 24:31 afterwards.)
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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14
by The Fall Guy invirtually every j.w.
will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.
crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.
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Bobcat
You could add Romans 16:25-26 to the evidence that Mt 24:14 was fulfilled in the first century:
25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mysterythat had been kept secret for long ages, 26 but now is disclosed, and through the prophetic scriptures has been made known to all the nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedienceof faith –
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What is the Baptism all about?
by Old Navy indoes the act of baptism make us a "member" of any group or organization?
or, is it something much greater in its purpose?.
when we as former jws came to the truthful conclusion that what the wtborg cult inc. was teaching/preaching was not an accurate representation of the word, many of us decided to look into every nook and cranny to see if we could discover the real truth.
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Bobcat
See my first and second posts on this thread for some background on WT baptism. I find it telling that the WT never references Romans 6:1-7 when speaking of baptism. Never. For the WT, baptism is an initiation rite to "associate" with them. By being baptized you become someone who is granted permission to 'associate with God's spirit directed organization.'
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Random thoughts of an ex-JW on a coffee break
by StarTrekAngel inlately i have been finding myself doing a lot of thinking.
not that i am smarter than the keurig coffee maker in my office, which lately has made me reevaluate the perception of my professional career.
somewhere along the way between winding down my relationship with my now ex-boss and starting a new one with my current boss, i noticed that the machine complaints with a message on a touchscreen….
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Bobcat
Here is an outline of the Mosaic Law regarding slaves, Hebrew as well as Gentile. For their time, Israel's slavery laws were revolutionary for their humaneness, in comparison with slavery among Gentiles. (No doubt, there were individual exceptions to this. And actual practice may have been sometimes different to what the Law stated.) There is a section in the link that discusses female slaves from war.
Israelite slavery does not compare well with modern democracies - in theory anyways, In practice, modern democracies have outsourced their 'slavery' to third world nations so that their own citizens have the appearance of freedom without any slavery. The same can be said for some of the more wealthy Islamic nations.
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JWs Reveling In The News Of Hurricanes And Earthquakes
by pale.emperor inas you know, this week the human race has been hit with hurricanes and earthquakes.
natural disasters which happen almost everyday, but this month we've seen them cause massive damage and a huge loss of lives.. as you can imagine, theres a whole host of jws positively wetting themselves with anticipation over this.link here: https://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25884-earthquakes-in-one-place-after-another/.
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Bobcat
I friend of mine who attends a not-too-distant KH told me that they were having some sort of 30 minute video presentation tonight (9-22-17 Friday) at their KH. She said it was "concerning the weather." That's all she knew. It's not their CO visit, by the way. And this is in an area that was affected by hurricane Irma, but not too badly.
Anyone heard anything about/like this?
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The "circle" of the earth
by stillin ina fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.
this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.
from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.
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What really should be the role of Women in the congregations?
by Old Navy inthe presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.
i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?
aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.
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Bobcat
Hi Old Navy and Diogenesister,
If my summation of the sign of Jonah has any merit, "the queen of the South" in the book of Jonah would correspond to the domestic animals in Jonah that "repent" along with the "men of Nineveh."
As the link on the view of women in the first century shows, women in Judea had little more status than domesticated animals. Jesus gave them much more status than Judaism ever did. And, like the queen of Sheba, many of the women who became disciples of Jesus gave much material support.
They were "raised up" by Christianity. Admittedly, modern women may not appreciate how much of a change in status women enjoyed with becoming a disciple of Jesus. (Mt 11:28-30; Incidentally, Constable's Notes - here - makes an interesting comment on the connection between Mt 11:28 and Jer 31:25 where it links Mt 11:28 with the New Covenant. Click on "Constable's Notes on the right pane and scroll down to where it discusses Mt 11:28. The WT denies most of its members any part in the New Covenant. And thus, one would expect that JW women do not get some of the benefit of that covenant.)