Here is a thread I started that uses a little different line of reasoning to debunk the importance of 1914.
Posts by Bobcat
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52If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914
by blondie indoesn't that throw off the date?.
*** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.
in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.
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Critical times, hard to deal with!
by The Fall Guy ini reckoned that a comment by muddy waters in his latest post deserved a separate consideration - especially for active/fading j.w.'s..
's who called on him, parroted out the org's message of doom from 2 timothy 3:1-5 to remind him how bad the world is and that it showed that we are living in the last days.. a former elder/p.o.
once told me that he hated it every time the wtbts falsely applied these verses to the 20-21st century.
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Bobcat
They will maintain the outward appearance of religion but will have repudiated its power. So [Timothy] avoid people like these. 6 For some of these insinuate themselves into households and captivate weak women who are overwhelmed with sins and led along by various passions. 7 Such women are always seeking instruction, yet never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8 And just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these people– who have warped minds and are disqualified in the faith – also oppose the truth. 9 But they ["some of these" from above] will not go much further, for their foolishness will be obvious to everyone, just like it was with Jannes and Jambres. 2Tim 3:5-9 NET
The bolded parts of the context show that Paul wasn't just speaking of some then future time, but also had his own time in mind.
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YPA change of picture
by dozy inanybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?
they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.
maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?
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Bobcat
Notice in the changed YPA picture they only changed the boy's head. The rest of the body is the same. All the folds and wrinkles on the plaid shirt are exactly the same.
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Are any of the 1st Cnetury Apostles Still Alive Today ?
by maccauk inthe second coming was in the 1st century all things have been fulfilled because jesus told them some would still be alive when he returned.
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Bobcat
Which verses are you referring to? It would be helpful if you provided references to prove what you are saying.
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Ok I feel like a dumb ass. Men have one less rib than women..
by James Mixon inwhy in the hell would we (men) have one less rib...help me folks the adam and eve story has screwed up my thinking...
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Bobcat
But we did believe in a talking ass and snake.
You were talking about Francis, weren't you?
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is armageddon starting ?
by stan livedeath inthe sky is so dark here in the south of the uk.
could be armageddon starting.. or then it could be dust particles in the atmosphere..
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Bobcat
happened in North America in August, a New Moon (no light) covered the Sun, for 2 minutes. enjoy the shows
Here is a vid of the eclipse from a Bonanza at 9000 feet (the eclipse starts about the 10 minute mark):
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''This good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth FULL STOP''- Matthew 24:14. JW ORG
by ThomasCovenant inhi.
only just noticed on the jw borg home page that matt 24:14 is quoted with a full stop instead of a comma after the word earth then the closing quotation marks.. isn't that incorrect?.
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The Second Coming of Christ
by maccauk inthe second coming of christ was in the 1st century at the destruction of jerusalem the temple the law and the old covenants.
so the new eternal covenant came into force in which people of every tribe tongue and nation would enter into.
the new jerusalem not built by human hands nor with bricks and mortar its spiritual cannot be seen but people will stream to it the sin issue is done there is no more judgment for those in christ .
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Bobcat
Hi mccauk,
The second coming of Christ was in the 1st century at the destruction of Jerusalem the temple the law and the old covenants. So . . .
Just curious. What is your basis for this premise?
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October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22
by wifibandit inoctober 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.
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Bobcat
In 1Co 16:2 the rNWT has left out "in your house." The better mss don't have the phrase. Nor does the phrase make sense. Why would the writer need to tell people which day of the week to store something in their own house? The verse is referring to where they meet at, which was typically on the first day of the week. (See how other modern Bibles render the verse here.)
It seems odd for them to capitalize on this phrase, seeing how they already determined to remove it in the revised version of the NWT. The letter makes mention of "in your house" and exploits this phrase to try to involve all members of one's household. This would be really crass if it isn't fake.
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Many Witnesses are just plain tired out!
by UnshackleTheChains ini believe that many witnesses are tired out or at least tiring out.
i know....... because i am tired out!.
imagine going to college for 20 years not knowing when college is finished.
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Bobcat
I remember an elder who used to sort of brag from the stage that 'we never graduate from the theocratic ministry school.' At least in part, he helped me begin the process of waking up.
Reminds me of this scene (sorry, couldn't find it in english):