Posts by Bobcat

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Higher Education

by Brian J in

just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

Bobcat

Hi BJ,

I was wondering if the parts on making reccomendations had any discussion about dealing with brothers who don't seem to be reaching out.

Thanks.

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New NWT, then and now - a comparison of the 2013 NWT, 2013 vs 2017.

by MeanMrMustard in

acts 2:9. old text:.

acts 2:10. old text:.

acts 2:11. old text:.

Why isn't Lazarus my next-door neighbor?

by return of parakeet in

after looking through doug mason's "ransom" thread, i noticed a little discrepancy between dub doctrine and the bible; i.e.

lazarus.. if the wages of sin is death, lazarus paid the wages in full by dying, and when resurrected by jesus, he should then have been a "perfect" man.

after all, he paid his wages for his imperfection -- he died.

I think you are confusing the 'act' or process of dying with being dead. And the death of the sinner does not produce forgiveness by God. Without an arrangement for forgiveness (Jesus' sacrifice) the sinner would simply stay dead. Thus, when Lazarus was brought back he was still a sinner and destined to eventually die.

Part of the WT's mistake is embodied in their translation of Romans 6:7 -

For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin (Rom 6:7 rNWT)

The error is the inserted word "his." It does not belong in the text. Romans chapter six is comparing baptism to death. The writer is saying that when a person dies they are no longer subject to the desires that produce sin - because they are dead. "Acquitted," in this context, would more properly be rendered "set free."

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How do jw's answer this? John 6:54 & blood issue

by carla in

i happen to be cruising around the net and stumbled upon this question on a different forum.

how do jw's answer jesus words in john 6:54 today?.

"whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and i will raise them up at the last day.

Bobcat

The Reasoning book under "Memorial" addresses John 6:54. It points out that the people (including the disciples) who heard Jesus say those words had no idea of a "Memorial" or Lord's Evening Meal. Thus, according to the WT, John 6:54 can't be applied to partaking of the emblems.

That logic is, of course, faulty. For example, the "audience" listening to Jesus included the readers of the fourth gospel who had been 'remembering' the Lord's Evening Meal for many years and would have easily seen the correspondence between John 6:54 and the symbolism involved in partaking of the emblems.

Another problem, if one accepts the WT's logic on why John 6:54 does not refer to partaking, then, that same logic would mean that Acts 15:29 can have no reference to blood transfusions since the original readers of the letter that contained Acts 15:29 had never heard of blood transfusions. I pointed this out to a brother some years ago and he acknowledged that 'the Society's reasoning has many holes in it.' Him and his wife have since pulled away from the WT (but not just for that).

A post I made on this page has a commentary reference concerning John 6:54 and the memorial emblems.

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JW HLC....a mixed bunch...what has been your experience?

by Lee Elder in

i have had greatly varied experiences with hlc members over the years.

i was never one myself, but i knew several of them personally.

most struck me as being generally decent human beings.

Bobcat

Here was an experience I had with the HLC a few years ago.

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If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914

by blondie in

jw
friends

doesn't that throw off the date?.

*** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.

in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

Bobcat

Here is a thread I started that uses a little different line of reasoning to debunk the importance of 1914.

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Critical times, hard to deal with!

by The Fall Guy in

i reckoned that a comment by muddy waters in his latest post deserved a separate consideration - especially for active/fading j.w.'s..

's who called on him, parroted out the org's message of doom from 2 timothy 3:1-5 to remind him how bad the world is and that it showed that we are living in the last days.. a former elder/p.o.

once told me that he hated it every time the wtbts falsely applied these verses to the 20-21st century.

Bobcat

They will maintain the outward appearance of religion but will have repudiated its power. So [Timothy] avoid people like these. 6 For some of these insinuate themselves into households and captivate weak women who are overwhelmed with sins and led along by various passions. 7 Such women are always seeking instruction, yet never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8 And just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these people– who have warped minds and are disqualified in the faith – also oppose the truth. 9 But they ["some of these" from above] will not go much further, for their foolishness will be obvious to everyone, just like it was with Jannes and Jambres. 2Tim 3:5-9 NET

The bolded parts of the context show that Paul wasn't just speaking of some then future time, but also had his own time in mind.

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YPA change of picture

by dozy in

anybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?

they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.

maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?

Bobcat

Notice in the changed YPA picture they only changed the boy's head. The rest of the body is the same. All the folds and wrinkles on the plaid shirt are exactly the same.

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Are any of the 1st Cnetury Apostles Still Alive Today ?

by maccauk in

the second coming was in the 1st century all things have been fulfilled because jesus told them some would still be alive when he returned.

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But we did believe in a talking ass and snake.

You were talking about Francis, weren't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ggMP0H6Zl8