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13Ronald L. Lawson Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, Queens College – Papers on Seventh-day Adventism, with some comparisons with Jehovah’s Witnesses
by jwleaks inronald l. lawson ph.d., professor emeritus, queens college, cuny – papers on seventh-day adventism, with some comparisons with mormons and witnesses.
9 january 2019. link.
a question that continues to draw research in the sociology of religion is what factors spur the growth of religions (kelley 1972; iannaccone 1994; bruce 2002; hoge and roozen 1979; stark and finke 2000).
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Was J.F. Rutherford - Exonerated?
by Amazing inone of the cornerstones of the watchtower society's claims about the 1918 trial of joseph f. rutherford and seven other co-defendants, is that the trial was a travesty of justice, where the defendants were railroaded off to prison.. to make their point, the society has repeatedly stated that joseph rutherford and his fellow defendants were "exonerated" of all charges, and subsequently released from prison fully vindicated.
the society also attributed this 'victory' to jehovah's hand in matters, restoring the symbolic 'two witnesses' spoken of in revelation, and thereby, reactivating the kingdom preaching work.. what actually transpired is that the convicted defendants filed a petition for a "writ of error.
" (trial transcript, pages 1-10, parts 1-30 ) the writ of error was allowed by the trial court, judge howe, and granted by the district court judge chatfield, whom the society earlier objected to and had removed from their trial, because they felt he would not be fair to them.. what does this mean?
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3 BOE's Just Arrived!
by Atlantis in2019 literature requests inventory guidelines.
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Thanks again for your tireless service, Atlantis. And for, well, you know. Wow!
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Was disfellowshipping really sanctioned by God? Please share your honest views according to your Bible views
by Strugglingrsa inwhat were the writers of the bible telling christians when they wrote : “stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.” (1 corinthians 5:11) regarding everyone who “does not remain in the teaching of the christ,” we read: “do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.
for the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2 john 9-11.
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Several things I would point out (not that a PIMI would care):
1. This is how you treat someone who "is called (present tense verb) a brother/sister." The fact that the announcement says that " so-and-so is no longer one of JWs" ─ Under any other circumstances anyone who isn't a JW would also not be "called a brother." At the WT Study non-JWs who answer are addressed as Mr. or Mrs. or Ms., not "Brother/Sister . . ." So it is pure hypocrisy and vindictiveness on the WT's part to treat a DFed one as if they are still "called a brother/sister."
2. No one, besides the Judicial Committee knows what the charges are against the person being DFed. But the letter (1 Cor) is addressed to "the church of God that is in Corinth." (1Co 1:2) Not to the elders in Corinth. Yet the WT ignores this and keeps the reasons for the DF secret. No one else knows what the DFing is for. Even if the person has taken some stand based on a conscience matter. They are treated the same as an adulterer or pedophile. It is pure wickedness on the WT's part to enforce things this way. They also do it this way to fend off defamation law suits. So they protect themselves against problems with DFing, but expect the R&F to accept any pain the procedure causes. Pure hypocrisy!
3. When the problem is doctrinal, the WT holds the R&F to whatever is currently in print. But the WT allows itself to depart from that. And if one was DFed for not accepting some teaching or understanding, and the WT eventually changes to the teaching the DFed one held to, then, there is no pardon for the DFed one. In reality, that one was DFed for not being obedient to the GB, not for disbelief. This also makes the WT guilty of lying. They condemned the person but lied about the real reason.
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Robert Alter Completes his New Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures
by fulltimestudent inthe jewish telegraphic agency comments on alter's translation:.
https://www.jta.org/2018/11/21/culture/robert-alter-completes-monumental-translation-hebrew-bible.
translation is not an easy task.
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When was Jesus born: Another interesting date.
by fulltimestudent inquote: "jonathan cahn on the jim bakker show nov.12th, 2012. cahn uses detective work to figure out that jesus was born on the first day of the jewish new year, known as nissan 1, in 6 b.c.
compelling correlation of jewish feast days and their foreshadowing of the life and work of jesus.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptlsxttf6n0.
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Jehovah's Witnesses... Who sent the Star of Bethlehem?
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses... who sent the star of bethlehem?.
the watchtower teach their followers that the star of bethlehem was sent by non other than satan... however as we take a look at the scriptures by comparing spiritual things with spiritual we begin to see that the star of bethlehem was not sent by satan, but used for the glory of god.a seasonal message to end the year.. watch now here :.
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Thank you Roddy.
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All Watchtower Brooklyn sales in 37 NYC doc pages + spreadsheet
by Corney ini have compiled 32 real property transfer reports (“reports”) and 5 recording and endorsement cover pages (“cover pages”) that are ny city public records and available online on a836-acris.nyc.gov site.
37 pages, 38 properties, $2.2bn, one society... enjoy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ryaj_4ihgs1uoyeptkbzdbmw9rd12dmf/view?usp=sharing.
see also spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1acdsqfusm5mi2zatfn87ksxmvrdzh0wfxg9nlomdszw/edit?usp=sharing.
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Jehovah's Witnesses... Who sent the Star of Bethlehem?
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses... who sent the star of bethlehem?.
the watchtower teach their followers that the star of bethlehem was sent by non other than satan... however as we take a look at the scriptures by comparing spiritual things with spiritual we begin to see that the star of bethlehem was not sent by satan, but used for the glory of god.a seasonal message to end the year.. watch now here :.
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This is why I mentioned the hypnotism idea above. It would allow 'stars' to get closer and move around without doing any real damage.
The other gospel writers don't mention the account because they weren't with Jesus during his travels.
I mentioned this a couple posts above without really thinking about it. The fourth gospel is traditionally attributed to John, who would have been a traveling companion of Jesus. But this thread considers another possibility.
Of course, the fourth gospel doesn't discuss any details of Jesus' childhood. So the missing account of the Magi in that gospel can also be attributed to thematic reasons.
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Jehovah's Witnesses... Who sent the Star of Bethlehem?
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses... who sent the star of bethlehem?.
the watchtower teach their followers that the star of bethlehem was sent by non other than satan... however as we take a look at the scriptures by comparing spiritual things with spiritual we begin to see that the star of bethlehem was not sent by satan, but used for the glory of god.a seasonal message to end the year.. watch now here :.
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Interesting perspective regarding the Magi, Bobcat.
And that is all it is, a plausible chain of events. The account is terse in its explanations and is apparently written for an audience who will accept the account prima facie.
Any thoughts on how why/how the Magi came to the conclusion that it was a Jewish king and not a king from a different country? Someone gave them accurate info.
This is some commentary on the passage from the NICNT-Matthew commentary (R T France; p. 62):
Secondly, the star which plays such a prominent role in the story invites reflection on Balaam's prophecy in Num 24:17-19 of the rise (LXX anatelei, echoed in Matthew's anatole, vv. 2, 9) of a "star out of Jacob and a scepter out of Israel," which is then interpreted as a ruler who will destroy Israel's enemies and take possession of the lands of Moab and Edom, a prophecy which was understood to point forward to the conquests of King David, and which thus also foreshadows the victory of the "son of David."
"Thirdly, the likely influence of Balaam's prophecy suggests that perhaps Balaam himself, the man who "saw" the messianic star rise (Num 24:15-17), may also be in mind as a model for the magi. He, like them, was a non-Israelite "holy man" and visionary from the East: Num 22:5 locates his home on the Euphrates, while LXX Num 23:7 speaks of his being summoned from Mesopotamia and uses the same phrase ap' anatolon ("from the East") which Matthew uses in Mt 2:1. He, like the magi, was pressurized by a king (Balak) intent on destroying the true people of God, but refused to cooperate and instead took the side of God's people."
Of course, the Balaam comparison can only be pressed so far. . .
On how they came to their interpretation, I would think it would have to be some Jewish influence. How the rising of one particular star could be interpreted so specifically . . . that I don't know. This page offers a plausible scenario.