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  John 5:28,29.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.

  but recently i got to thinking about it.

  if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

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  Bobcat

  "The hour" in the phrase, "the hour is coming," is idiomatic. It has the same sense in English as saying 'the time is coming.' It is not expressing any particular length of time. Thus, the foretold "last day" is "the time" for all those in the tombs to rise. And it starts at "the last trumpet" which coincides with the start of the day of judgment. (Rev 11:15, 18)

  Resurrection, as an idea, is no more nonsensical than is teleportation on the Star Trek series. The idea is based on the theory of quantum entanglement. The NOVA series, The Elegant Universe discussed and illustrated the idea.

  With enough memory and power a person (or anything for that matter) could be 'recreated' as it were. The idea of resurrecting a person is not out of the realm of known science. Humans are playing with the idea, but only one particle at a time last I read.
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  4 Letters Arrived--English and Spanish! (as of 2020-06-19)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1.--2020-06-18-- english--instructions for our online meetings.. distractions.

  noisepreparations.

  personal appearance .

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  Bobcat

  Petra & Atlantis, could I also get them via PM? Thank you very much
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  The bitter irony of revolutuions

  by Bill Covert in

  1. social
  2. current

  editorial in local paper by victor davis hansen , a classicist and historian at the hoover institution stanford university.. this is something i think you folks would find interesting.

  unfortunately i am computer challenged due to the effectiveness of church shunning policies cutting off access to kids and grandkids educating me.

  so if some one would be able to pull up and post the editorial, i think it would be of interest.

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  Bobcat

  Here it is.
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  The Cry of Peace And Security

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.

  this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.

  i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..

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  Bobcat

  This post (on another site) has links to my personal research about 1Th 5:3, if you are interested.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  Bobcat

  Dad has always insisted that I must hate them since I left. Pure nuttiness.
  

  That has been my experience also. Whatever the WT says are your motives, that's what they are. It doesn't matter what you say or do.

  And yes, it is pure brainwashed nuttiness. I resigned as an elder some years back (10+) and got off the school to prevent them from trying to reappoint me. (It has worked, by the way.) Yet, every time the CO visits he includes a part in his service talk about ones getting upset about losing their privileges, and to get over it. It's kind of like if a sane person were sentenced to live in an insane asylum. It's a lot like that.
  
  
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  Documents That Have Arrived as of 2020-06-02!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  documents that have arrived as of 2020-06-02 in english and spanish.letters are:.

  if you are on the email list these are already under your coffee cup.

  if your not on the email list, then reply below if you want the link put in your pm box.petra!.

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  Bobcat

  Hi Petra, may I have a copy also?

  Thank you.
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  Peace and security

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  scrolling through the news this morning and i couldn’t help to think we are light years from any leaders crying out peace and security.

  jws are going to have to wait another decade or two and see how things develop before they get excited about armageddon coming in their lifetime.

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  Bobcat

  I had a thread on this topic a few years ago. (Here) The NAC-Thessalonians commentary that is quoted in the OP (of that thread) has a very interesting take on 1Th 5:3. Because of the wording used in 1Th 5:3, it understands the verse to be describing the world's nonchalant view of a coming "day of the Lord." Paul is saying that that attitude already prevailed in his day among non-Christians, and that the world would continue to have that attitude until that "day" suddenly erupted in the lives of humanity. From that standpoint, 1Th 5:3 is not all that different from Luke 17:26-30, which is why Paul could tell the Thessalonians what he did in 1Th 5:1-2.

  It appears to me that many of the comments above are not so much comments on 1Th 5:3 per se, but rather, comments on the WT's long held interpretation of that verse.
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  Kingdom Hall Scheduler

  by Thetruthhurts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure there's already topics on this but i couldn't find one so i'm starting my own.

  is the kingdom hall scheduling program new?

  is this where they are entering all of the members data now?

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  Bobcat

  If all the scheduling were routed through the Society, is it possible they would get some sort of discount or advantage through the different carriers because of the numbers of people involved (sort of like how they get perks from the hotels when they arrange hotels for conventions)?

  I don't know enough about how phone service works, so I am just guessing at possibilities. An elder sent me an email asking for my carrier also (USA). It seemed a little odd, but I saw no harm in it.
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  8 Documents Arrived Today!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1.--authorization and release agreementfor disaster relief medical assistance.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------2.--for the attention of all elders------------------------------------------------------------------.

  3.--additional direction regarding assistance with practical needs------------------------------------------------------------------.

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  Bobcat

  Please for Bobcat also. Thank you Petra.
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  Kermit Is Delivering Documents!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  kermit is delivering documents with his kermit chopper.. https://docdro.id/a01tdj0.

  if you are on the receive list these documents are already in your email.. .

  if your not on the list, then reply below that you want kermit to swing by your place, and drop off a copy in your pm box.. .

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  Bobcat

  Please add me too Petra. And thank you so very much!