Posts by Bobcat

the truth that gives you eternal life was published on watchtower presses, and is not to be confused with the truth that leads to eternal life published by the watchtowerbible and tract society.

Wife in cult mode. What was the topic this past weekend 10-18-20

by goingthruthemotions in

as always i preferece this post with a: i despise this cult!!!!

so glad the boys dispise it as well.. so, as stated...she is in a cult mode and i am trying to figure out what the trigger was.

the watchtower rag or .

My wife sometimes gets that way. If the magazine or a meeting part talks about a particular problem in marriage, then, suddenly, we have have that problem. Same way when there is talk of someone who left. The only reason they could have left is the reason the WT gives for those who left.

I have to admit that the WT has become expert on propaganda/brainwashing techniques. They are right up there with the North Koreans.

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2020-Letter Writing Manual--Pre-Authorized Debit Donations!--( as of 2020-10-10)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2020-10--letter writing templates manual.

91 pages.

2020-10-01--donation arrangement--pre-authorized debit.

Bobcat

And could you please send me a link too? And thank you very much for your hard work, Atlantis and Petra.

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2020-New-October-Elders-Manual-Addendum-and-S-147-Announcements! (as of 2020-10-02)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

new--2020-october--shepherd the flock of god--elder manual.

new--2020-october--addendum to elder manual.

2020--october-s-147-e--announcements and reminders.

Bobcat

Could you send a link to me also please? Thank you Petra and Atlantis.

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Where have the NWT Bible changed verses to fit their theology ?

by smiddy3 in

i can think of two to start off with .

john 1:1 and luke 23:43 ,what others can you come up with ?.

Bobcat

This one really irritates me. They changed Ephesians 4:8 from “Gifts to men” or “gifts unto men” into “gifts in men”

I have posted about this one here (another site) and in posts 9 & 10 in that same thread. It is one of my 'pet peeve' NWT verses also. I agree that the rendering seems to suit the WT's power structure needs.

Another verse that could be claimed that was distorted by the WT for theological reasons is Rev 1:10. I have a post about it here.

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Privileges

by neat blue dog in

for me, outside the jw context, that word seems to relate to something like a prison setting, where you're allowed to do certain things based on good behavior.

Bobcat

It's typical of high-control groups that everything they want you to do is a "privilege." If one is PIMO, then, start to always refer to them as "so-called privileges." (Or "your so-called privileges." An unspoken way of saying they are not "privileges" to you.)

Most likely they will never offer them to you after that. Part of the group/cult persona is that you are supposed to be seeking and desiring after their privileges before they will grant those 'privileges' to you. They won't offer them to you unless you first show that you desire for them to give them to you. This desire for their "privileges" puts you at a disadvantage. It makes you useful to them. (Or if they do offer some "privilege," tell them you'll have to think about it for awhile to see if you can conscientiously accept it. After all, you might have more important things to do. In this way you show unspoken disdain for what they view as important.)

In this way you use their cult-think to your own advantage. Of course, you must mentally accept that they will view you as spiritually weak. But learn to disdain their appraisal of your value.

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Do Other Sheep have Eternal Life Now?

by Vanderhoven7 in

one of the benefits of justification is eternal life for believers.

i found an interesting passage from the wt, june 15, 1974 which reads:.

"it is to the spirit anointed christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the christian-greek scriptures is directed, including the promise of everlasting life.

Bobcat

Hi Vanderhoven,

We had a thread over at DtT (here) that includes links in the OP to a couple of related threads. The thread is on the subject of "immortality."

I've come to believe that WT's take on the term amounts to an "etymological fallacy." If one compares its use in 1Co 15 you will see that it is set in opposition to corruption and mortality. Those terms are only used in connection with sinful humans, not sinless creatures.

A related passage is 1Tim 6:14-16 which speaks of either God or Christ as "the one alone having immortality." If it applies to God, then, it would imply that He alone was indestructible in the ultimate sense.

When the WT treats the word according to its literal etymology, they end up creating all kinds of questions that have no easy answer.