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  Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

  by Darkknight757 in

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  2. experiences

  so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

  we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

  an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

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  Darkknight757, these folks were complete jerks. Hope the dinner was good, at least.
  
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  Utah Jehovah’s Witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.

  utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.

  a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.

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  A leader from the congregation apparently warned the girl's parents in November 2006 that the instructor — who previously attended church sessions in Ogden and Oregon — was a "bad kid" who had "engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior with a female member of the Clearfield congregation."

  The girl's interactions with the instructor began in summer 2007, the lawsuit states, when she attended a movie with him.

  Sounds like he'd been a longtime loser.

  And FYI ... age of consent is 16 in Utah.

  Now, why the heck are they playing a tape in a judicial meeting. Some elders have absolutely no common sense.
  
  
  
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  I’m feeling a bit down and troubled

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  what is getting me down are the difficult and troubling experiences posted by some of the forum users.

  in a number of cases i cannot believe the injustice inflicted on the person.

  how, forgive the wording, in god’s name can this be happening?

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  yes, people suck...a lot.
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  Quick question to Jehovah Witnesses.

  by SomeRusskiBeliever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do jehovah witnesses believe jesus christ is lord?

  looked it up in nwt "therefore, let all the house of israel know for a certainty that god made him both lord and christ".

  " - acts 2:36a.

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  Yes, Christ is Lord. Next question.
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  Just curious - is apostasy grounds for divorce?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.

  i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.

  we currently are separated - i have left him.

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  LifesNotOver Apostasy isn't grounds for divorce, as you said. And more specifically, porneia is grounds, not just what most people consider adultery. Even if you were making out with a guy and started jerking him off, that would count...or if you were making out with a woman and stuck your hand down her pants and started massaging her clitoris ... both of those would be considered porneia.
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  Brother with a beard on jw.org!

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, slight exaggeration: specifically, an official recording of the july 25th, 2016 midweek meeting in german sign language downloaded from stream.jw.org, (log-in required), includes a brother with a beard giving one of the talks:.

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  there's nothing right or wrong about having a beard. it's a personal choice. and there's a recent wt article that points out that some brothers in positions of responsibility have beards.
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  just out of curiosity, is this a 79 yo CO?
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  I love how no one knows the answer, but that doesn't stop you from saying this or that.

  The answer is that no one knows. And the official position from the WT articles is that no one knows and we do no good speculating. If a spouse dies, and the surviving spouse chooses to remain single, there's nothing to say that they can't be together after the resurrection. If a spouse dies, and the surviving spouse chooses to remarry, then they can. And who's to say the resurrected one can't be happy with that scenario. They are free to marry some hottie from the 2nd century B.C.

  my 2 pennies
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  Don't touch ark of covenant

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i raised an issue with a co once about an elders qualifications, he visited my house and in no uncertain terms said don't touch ark of covenant ( referring to elder as ark ) , i was gob smacked then he said to wife and i that if we pursued such an avenue we could be grieving gods holy spirit.

  so ther you go elder are on par with god ..

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  He was angry at himself.

  And after this incident, notice he didn't ask the other elders, 'what now?' He got out the scriptures and researched for himself.
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  Is this true

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi ive heard a romour that any jws that want a printed copy of the new song book to use at the kh will have to order one otherwise they will not get one.ithink they are trying to make people use tablets to view the song book.

  as the new songbook is only 154 pages is this yet another money saving event in the borg .

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  not a rumor, and nothing new. they've announced this 'use the online version' for the past 3-5 years, starting with the convention releases. and, btw, it's a 151-song songbook.