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  1993 Child Custody Litigation When Religion Is A Factor-PDF!

  by Atlantis in

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  1993 child custody litigation when religion is a factor-pdf*http://www.sendspace.com/file/0ho8s8*the owner used a mild highlighter in some areas but the text can still be read.

  **atlantis

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  Tylinbrando

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  Can someone please explain why I'm NOT DF'd yet???

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been sending one "apostate" email after another to an elder in my congo (who frequently does circuit and district convention parts) and i'm still not df'd.... i've even sent him a free pdf copy of "crisis of conscience" twice in the last 3 months (sorry cynthia franz), as well as emails about the whole spectrum of bullshit (607, 144k, 1935, blood, proof of lies, false predictions, etc...).

  he vary rarely responds but i know he's reading them because he said so in a recent google chat.... he even acknowledged that the wt got 607 wrong but then says that i should look at the positives and stop finding fault.... but still... i sent some really strong gb-bashing emails and i'n not df'd.... i mean seriously, i've pushed the envelope as far as i possibly can.. what the hell is going on???

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  How prominent are you withing the Congo? Privileges? Family? How many generations? How vocal are you outside of your communication with this Elder? Once he opens the "can of worms" it only cuts into his personal time and exposes him to scrutiny from the others on the BOE.

  I currently have communication with several BOE and one CO. I communicate with several current Bethelites. They know without a doubt I am outspoken and even possibly opposed. But they have been communicating with me for 18 months. How do they rectify that with others on the BOE?THEY DONT! It is better for them to act ignorant, disconnected and uncommunicative. They are scared to death and they are trying to reconcile their beliefs with their conscience.

  Still when they are confronted with personal obligations or impetus to defend their positions because of my personal actions they are more than happy to fire off an email or engage in a phone conversation. (Recorded without their permission and I really could care a less of legal ramifications, I wont be using it AT trial.)

  If there are no attending active JWs in the Congo demanding that you be "dealt with" chances are you are still under the radar. Keep it that way. If you are selective and wise, what you do and say can have an affect on them and plant a thought process leading them out of the sectarian vice grip. Phonecalls and emails can never hold water in a JC.

  They want the easy solution, dont ever give it to them. No letters, no "two witnesses", make sure you are not being recorded ever. Live, Love and Laugh....and deny, deny, deny.
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  update on my hellish life

  by outsmartthesystem in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think i am going to have to change my name to screwthesystem.

  i just couldn't take it anymore.

  knowing full well what would happen.....i let my fil know how i felt about the organization.

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  Tylinbrando

  You are now on the radar. Or at least more so then before. I would cease to communicate in any way shape or form with the BOE from this point forward. They can and will act on anything out of your mouth whether you are present or not at a JC.

  How do your children feel? To what extent are they controlled by mom and what are their inclinations towards spiritual activities?

  My two youngest children strive to please their mom by going along with meetings etc. to keep the peace in her home. They also look forward with a passion to spending time with me when they are allowed to do all the things their peers are doing, i.e. extra cirricular school activities, BD parties, holidays. I encourage them to cooperate when they are with mom and at the same time I diligently strive to provide them with the alternative when they are with me. It is my firm belief that any child when given the opportunity of "choice" when it comes to their maturation process and an allegience to the WBTS, will clearly discern the motivations of each parent and their ideals of upbringing. Without "alienating" the mother you can still show a life choice to your children allowing them to have a more balance view of their personal belief system.

  What has been in my corner is unconditional love and displaying to them that they truly come first in my life. While I may not agree with some of their decisions, I would never abandon them hook line and sinker. Without so much as one single effort by myself they have been able to discern that they are not truly the first place in mom's life. Mom has even spelled it out for them...first is jehovah, then the organization, the elders, my new husband and then you. While she attempts to convince them that they are all important to her, her choices display otherwise. Some would argue that children can be petulant and manipulative. That may very well be true. But as they grow older, will they not seek out parental guidance that clearly gives them unbiased stimulation to promote wise and personal choices unclouded by rigid dogma and pressure at the hands of highly indoctrinated spiritual leaders? It is a choice I was never afforded.

  I believe children need both parents even if both parents can not agree on a world view. I do not believe children should be used as pawns in order to irritate another parent who has a differing world view. Communication with children without derailing their other parent is possible. Asking them viewpoint questions is far more productive then dictating what they have to do, when, where, and how. Maybe they dont want to play sports, or celebrate birthdays, holidays etc? Maybe it is because of the indoctrination they are still receiving? But maybe the dont want to go to meeting, field service or participate in family bible study either? Once they learn to use a respectful voice, they can lobby for themselves. They are going to mature, and given the right tools of discernment and analyzation, they are going to break free from the bonds a religious sect, cult or creed places upon them.

  My greatest fear is that upon their path to adulthood, they would ever blame me for disrupting a relationship with their mom. Kids change. What means a great deal to them today could mean the opposite 10 years from now.

  I think what I am trying to say is, leave the religion and the chess games with the elders and mom out of the equation with your kids. And if you insist on going there, try to shelter them from the fact that the game is actually taking place. I am not naive. I know the type of brainwashing they are no doubt getting from mom. But dont stoop to her level. You are not Satan. Your kids will know this for certain as they become adults.

  I get the feeling from your OP that you are still together with mom? What are the chances that a sit down and discussion about your views would yield favorable results from her to avoid YEARS of misery moving forward apart?

  I genuinely feel for you. I wish you the best. I apologize if my comments seem off base or cause you irritation. I am living it and thought my experiences could provide material for thought.
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  Prince makes an appearance on the "View" again

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i always wondered about him, but it's official.

  a public statement about he being a jw was made.. he is also involved in providing some help to a charity work, by providing his help at three concerts in chicago.

  the "rebuilding the dream", organization, that is non political.. i wish him and them all the best as they try and help those that have been adversely affect in this recession..

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  Maybe his theocratic activities have derailed his civil obligations.....

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-17/prince-fails-to-comply-with-irs-summons-over-taxes-u-dot-s-dot-says
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  Sex abuse prosecution hurdles

  by Tylinbrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what is frustrating to me is that even if the wbts and silentlambs, attorneys and parents who have been contacted before law enforcement of sex abuse disclosures were to pick up their phones immediately and call the police to report alleged sex abuse, there is still a huge amount of hurdles to clear before an alleged abuser will be brought to justice.

  investigations gathering evidence that is deemed to be prosecutable can take months.

  diliberations by district attorneys before a judge can take months.

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  New Chapter is right about moving on and helping a child flourish without the daily burdens of the abuse issue. For the most part this can be the case as investigators and attorneys go about their jobs. But let me tell you from personal experience, even when going about the normal activities of life and focusing on those activities as a case progresses behind the scenes, the child victim is repeatedly called upon to recite her experience whether it be for the initial investigators , prosecution or civil attorneys or new professionals that are brought into the field be it therapists, doctors, Minor's Counsel, etc. It seems each 90 days brings back the trauma and stress while trying to move ahead throught the legal battlefield. It is taxing. It is overwhelming. When the repeated question of "Are you sure you can move through this?" is repeatedly offered up by professionals it leaves the child and her advocates wondering, "why so much doubt?" and "perhaps we can not."

  I have to say that it seems new legislation and practices in the acquiring of depositions from the victims is a tremendous help. Forensic investigators take a DVD testimony from the young victim and strive to utilize it repeatedly for the plethora of professionals involved with the case. This limits the "retelling" of the abuse for the child over and over and is even hoped to keep the child off of the stand at trial.

  Still, invariably, the child being the victim, is subjected to the issue daily while in the private of her own room or thoughts or in the occasional visit to a cold professional office. Perhaps it is the nature of things and is what it is. Helpful solutions and recommendations to minimize these facets of life are appreciated.
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  Sex abuse prosecution hurdles

  by Tylinbrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what is frustrating to me is that even if the wbts and silentlambs, attorneys and parents who have been contacted before law enforcement of sex abuse disclosures were to pick up their phones immediately and call the police to report alleged sex abuse, there is still a huge amount of hurdles to clear before an alleged abuser will be brought to justice.

  investigations gathering evidence that is deemed to be prosecutable can take months.

  diliberations by district attorneys before a judge can take months.

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  What is frustrating to me is that even if the WBTS and Silentlambs, Attorneys and Parents who have been contacted before Law Enforcement of sex abuse disclosures were to pick up their phones immediately and call th e Police to report alleged sex abuse, there is still a huge amount of hurdles to clear before an alleged abuser will be brought to justice. Investigations gathering evidence that is deemed to be prosecutable can take months. Diliberations by district attorneys before a judge can take months. Arrest warrants for abusers can take months to serve. Arraignment and depositions, attorney selection and discoveries can take months. Pre trial motions and settlement conferences can take months. Trial setting and trial can take months. Jury selection can take months. Appeals and re trials can take months......So a child that is abused between the ages of 5-11, can disclose the abuse at 12 and not see Trial until she is 18 or older. It is disheartening and overwhelming. A child who has already lost their young childhood innocence can continue on to lose most if not all of their young adult life. Perhapse THIS is why many choose not to take a legal course of action. BUT it should still be placed upon the table immediately for them to contemplate.
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  I'm a stepmom to a little JW.... need advice...

  by LKM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a new stepmom to an 8 year old boy whose mother is a jw pioneer.

  my husband has been disfellowshipped for 2.5 years now.

  i was part of the reason he left the organization for good, although he had stopped believing long before being kicked out.

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  Tylinbrando

  Study the Watchtower's publications with the child.

  Everything he needs to know to scare the heck out of him and make him run far away is there. Mom will have a hard time telling him, "Oh thats just what your dad or stepmom is telling you" Once my three children learned without a doubt that all their teachers and classmates and most of their relatives were going to be destroyed in horrific manner by Jehovah God at Armaggeddon according to JW teachings, they each began to internally withdraw from the weekly brainwashing at the meetings. This is just one of many examples of teaching points you could use. As they get older speak to them of JW teachings and in turn the fallicies of such that their mental capacity can deal with.

  A word of caution. Kids want to please both parents. If they feel manipulated by either parent to alienate the other parent it becomes extremely conflicting for them and they may revel against both.By teaching and showing them about "unconditional" love and by giving them education rather that "telling" them, it will allow them to develope their own thinking paterns and it will in turn allow them to assert themselves and their personal beliefs even to a parent that can be as controlling, alienating, manipulative, cohersive, brow-beating and brainwashing as a JW parent.

  Finally, remember to stand up for something in their behalf and never become complacent in balancing out the assertive brainwashing techniques from the JW mother. Of some comfort, regardless of your efforts in this whole issue, statistics show your little JW will probably not stay JW. Hopefully you can give him solid reasons not to and solid reasons to do so much more with his precious life.
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  Are they asking for it?

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading throught bluepill2's thread on the wts asl masturbation video, i wonder, are they doing this on purpose?

  are they somehow hoping some of this stuff goes viral to garner attention?

  are they counting on a public backlash so they can claim persecution?

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  Yet Even ASL censors its audience when communicating about these specific issues and most who use ASL agree that there are other "less graphic" ways to communicate about masturbation. Was WBTS going for shock value? Seriously, what is with the guys facial expressions....in no way is that required....I think he was just enjoying making the video a bit too much. lmao
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  Update on Candace Conti's Case

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just ran upon this info:.

  candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .

  http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.

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  There can be no settlement in this case nor will there be. Despite any further appeals avenues taken by WBTS or change in PDs awarded a gag order can not be implemented in California. This is why Candace and Rick are aggressively going public with the case.

  "This Institution(Watchtower) is probably going to need more than one lesson....and they are going to get more than one lesson. - Rick Simons (Attorney for Candace Conti)
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  No more 3-day DCs starting in 2013?

  by respectful_observer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apologies if there is another recent thread on this, but i have heard from 4 different people in 3 different geographic areas (including someone who does advance work for the dcs), that beginning in 2013 the three day dc program will be replaced by a second two-day circuit assembly.

  some people were passing the info along like a secret, others seemed to think that everyone already knew.. if everyone in j-dub land is already talking about this, how is it not all over this forum??.

  anyway, can anyone confirm or deny?.

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  Tylinbrando

  Same for the Long Beach Convention Center in California. Nothing slated for 2013 after 20 years of having 12 DCs per summer.

  http://www.longbeachcc.com/calendar/index.cfm?action=month&cdate=10-1-2013&navid=1200