http://www.powersstudios.com/blog/pe...n-country-club
These are his wedding pictures inside the Kingdom Hall.. (Thank you ARWEN)
very sad as was said by a poster earlier our shared one time faith makes it seem as if you knew her.
rip.
http://www.powersstudios.com/blog/pe...n-country-club
These are his wedding pictures inside the Kingdom Hall.. (Thank you ARWEN)
very sad as was said by a poster earlier our shared one time faith makes it seem as if you knew her.
rip.
This is not allegation or propogation of rumor. It is speculation and the same avenue that law enforcement is taking as I type.
AGGRAVATED MURDER AMONGST JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
Nothing official has been released about motive or Holt's background.
Let's assume Holt's Parent's neighbors are right that Holt was a JW.
It seems ABC News has stretched the story and claimed Holt was in the same congregation as Hiechel.
Why are none of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the area validating those claims but instead refuting them on discussion boards and comment threads?
... Why are there no pictures of Holt and his wife on Hiechel's Facebook page? Wouldn't couples that lived so close together and from the same congregation spend photographic moments together and be close friends?
Something isnt adding up.
Let's assume there is truth to the claim Holt was in Hiechel's congregation.
In my mind there is only one motive. Holt and Hiechel had an affair. It may have been spontaneous and a one time event or a continuous liason living so close together. Heichel felt guilty and wanted to approach the elders, Holt was violently opposed to the idea and made certain Heichel could not approach the elders for a confession of the affair.
Carrying it even further, Hiechel may have been pregnant with Holt's child. After all starting a family was on her bucket list and Husband wasn't for it. The guilt from the affair and pregnancy could have been too much for Hiechel to carry. She needed to confess to the Elders.
Holt could not allow that to happen because it would jeapordize his marriage and reputation as a JW.....
No wonder Holt is on suicide watch
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Report-Holt-Heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2012/10/jehovahs_witness_community_mou.html
"Vaughn(Jehovah's Witness family spokesman most likely the COBE) declined to comment on accusations against Holt, who is a Jehovah's Witness and was acquainted with both the Heichels, possibly through Jehovah's Witness gatherings, investigators said. Several small congregations of around 100 people each meet at different times in the same Kingdom Hall."
http://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2012/10/jehovahs_witness_community_mou.html
"Vaughn(Jehovah's Witness family spokesman most likely the COBE) declined to comment on accusations against Holt, who is a Jehovah's Witness and was acquainted with both the Heichels, possibly through Jehovah's Witness gatherings, investigators said. Several small congregations of around 100 people each meet at different times in the same Kingdom Hall."
http://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
Finkelstein,
As you may have gathered from some of my posts, I am over the top and sensationalistic. Unfortunately, I am proven right more often then I would like. Please don't hold it against me. I am simply adding a perspective and the story I described above is one I heard many variations of serving as an elder for many years....Jehovah's Witnesses have social issues that would tie any PHD therapist/psychologist in many knots.
Yeah shocked me too as I lay awake dealing with it night after night.
AGGRAVATED MURDER AMONGST JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
Nothing official has been released about motive or Holt's background.
Let's assume Holt's Parent's neighbors are right that Holt was a JW.
It seems ABC News has stretched the story and claimed Holt was in the same congregation as Hiechel.
Why are none of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the area validating those claims but instead refuting them on discussion boards and comment threads?
... Why are there no pictures of Holt and his wife on Hiechel's Facebook page? Wouldn't couples that lived so close together and from the same congregation spend photographic moments together and be close friends?
Something isnt adding up.
Let's assume there is truth to the claim Holt was in Hiechel's congregation.
In my mind there is only one motive. Holt and Hiechel had an affair. It may have been spontaneous and a one time event or a continuous liason living so close together. Heichel felt guilty and wanted to approach the elders, Holt was violently opposed to the idea and made certain Heichel could not approach the elders for a confession of the affair.
Carrying it even further, Hiechel may have been pregnant with Holt's child. After all starting a family was on her bucket list and Husband wasn't for it. The guilt from the affair and pregnancy could have been too much for Hiechel to carry. She needed to confess to the Elders.
Holt could not allow that to happen because it would jeapordize his marriage and reputation as a JW.....
No wonder Holt is on suicide watch
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Report-Holt-Heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html
http://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
Nothing official has been released about motive or Holt's background.
Let's assume Holt's Parent's neighbors are right that Holt was a JW.
It seems ABC News has stretched the story and claimed Holt was in the same congregation as Hiechel.
Why are none of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the area validating those claims but instead refuting them on discussion boards and comment threads?
Why are there no pictures of Holt and his wife on Hiechel's Facebook page? Wouldn't couples that lived so close together and from the same congregation spend photographic moments together and be close friends?
Something isnt adding up.
Let's assume there is truth to the claim Holt was in Hiechel's congregation.
In my mind there is only one motive. Holt and Hiechel had an affair. It may have been spontaneous and a one time event or a continuous liason living so close together. Heichel felt guilty and wanted to approach the elders, Holt was violently opposed to the idea and made certain Heichel could not approach the elders for a confession of the affair.
Carrying it even further, Hiechel may have been pregnant with Holt's child. After all starting a family was on her bucket list and Husband wasn't for it. The guilt from the affair and pregnancy could have been too much for Hiechel to carry. She needed to confess to the Elders.
Holt could not allow that to happen because it would jeapordize his marriage and reputation as a JW.....
No wonder Holt is on suicide watch.
age group 14-18.. i have only made one stipulation.
reading steven hassan's book combating cult mind control and a 4 page essay.. over the top?.
invitation is from another youth with protestant christian evangelical parents.
Age group 14-18.
I have only made one stipulation. Reading Steven Hassan's book Combating Cult Mind Control and a 4 page essay.
Over the top?
Invitation is from another youth with Protestant Christian Evangelical parents. Whatever that means.
I want input from parents with teens. Please.
the apologists states: "give at least one example in the bible where the word prototokos (firstborn) does not carry the meaning of "a beginning of existence.
or present any occurrence of the genitive phrase "firstborn of ..." which does not include the subject as part of the group.".
hi aggressive questions present the logical fallacy of false dilemma.
chi is a family friend through our daughter's school.
her book is titled "u touch i tell" .
neither of us new we both had personal abuse issues and i am moved by her personal story.
U TOUCH I TELL Facebook: