I had a MS come into my work today to encourage me to come back to the meetings. He asked me how I was doing and I smiled real big and told him I was doing wonderful!!! he was completely confused because I think I was supposed to be feeling bad and guilty for not going out in service and feeling like the wrath of Jehovah was upon me. He didn't know what to do after that lol Anyway have similar stories? I even had an elder ask me the same thing one time and I he said "no your not alright" and walked off.
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guilt tripping isn't working!
by thecrushed ini had a ms come into my work today to encourage me to come back to the meetings.
he asked me how i was doing and i smiled real big and told him i was doing wonderful!!!
he was completely confused because i think i was supposed to be feeling bad and guilty for not going out in service and feeling like the wrath of jehovah was upon me.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by Alfred inthey changed the story in the spanish version !!!.
in the spanish version, steve does not hit selma... he merely gets "furious" with her.... 12 a ella se le quedo grabada una leccion que le enseno la testigo que le daba clases biblicas: fue un dia que no tenia ganas de estudiar.
la noche anterior habia estado discutiendo con steve y el se habia puesto furioso conmigo, asi que estaba triste y me sentia muy mal.
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the other thing to remember is if she leaves her husband for this reason alone she isn't free to marry again but must remain alone. This is a cruel law.
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WT is a cash cow for who? do the GB know they are frauds?
by thecrushed inas i've understood it the gb has taken a vow of poverty.
on jwn they are constantly accused of guilt tripping their subjects to keep distributing there literature to make converts in order to keep growing the number of donations which is a valid point.
i ask this question in all honesty and naivety to see where the truth of the matter lies.
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As I've understood it the GB has taken a vow of poverty. On JWN they are constantly accused of guilt tripping their subjects to keep distributing there literature to make converts in order to keep growing the number of donations which is a valid point. I ask this question in all honesty and naivety to see where the truth of the matter lies. What is all of this money spent on? Who personally benefits from all this massive wealth? The GB doesn't have lavish summer vacationing properties anywhere do they? Do they really live simple lives or do they secretly have expensive creature comforts? Are they just a product of Mind Control too or do they know exactly what they are doing and planning on someday retiring to some island where they will never be found? Are they so self deluded that they think that they actually are God's mouthpiece or do they know they are faking it? They must know the history of themselves because they alter their own history.
Any ideas?
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Still confused after all these years,,,
by marriedtoajw inas you guys can see i don't post as much as i'd like to.
work hours and little family time don't allow me enough time to do it.
as i've stated on some of my previous posts, also under the user name sahara, i still get confused after all of these years being married to a jw.
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I wish I had had a father like you when I was a kid. I didn't have a chance. Keep it up and don't give in to this evil cult!
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Watchtower view of logic
by Steve Mc inthe watchtower's position on logic and truth is basically that there are two logics (god's and man's) and two truths (god's and man's).
this position makes knowledge impossible (especially knowledge of god) and allows the society to contradict itself with impunity.. read my letter to the society:.
http://watchingthetower.blogspot.com/2009/05/letter-to-christian-congregation-of.html.
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And to think I still have to go play church with these insane people every week so that I can keep my family and my wife. Is it any wonder people shoot themselves and become alcoholics in this religion?
Excellent logic used and there response was completely feeble and didn't even address the questions asked. They dance around subjects with as much skill as corrupt politicians.
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questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain
by thecrushed ineven before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
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WOW Flat Accent I've been totally debunked. I guess I can go ahead and put my Jayduub glasses back on.
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questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain
by thecrushed ineven before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
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Even before awakening from the Mind Control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic. I'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here. Every time I'd ask JW's these questions they would give me BS answers like we will have to wait on Jehovah to tell us in the New system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
How did all the diversity and unique life that has been discovered in the past century in the south american rain forests and austrailia get from the Ark to there respective places? How did all the millions of unique species of flora and fuana that are dependant on there respective ecosystems survive in one ark?
If it was so important then why didn't God just recreate them instead of creating such an impossible task for Noah?
If Jehovah is a perfect God then why did he create Dinosaurs just to then turn around and have them destroyed not once but several times? Did God really need an eraser on his creation pencil?
Why would a Loving God create Parasites that kill people everyday? Why would he create viruses?
Why would he create animals designed to rip flesh from bones if his purpose was for them to eat grass and be completely tranquil and peaceful with everyone.
Why do we see an ecosystem that strikes a perfect balance with all living things via predator or prey food chain system?
We now know that we are all related by our DNA. If we were individually created by god should not every DNA pattern be unique in everyway with no relation to any other creature? Yet we see that certian parts of our DNA are simply switches that have been turned off or discarded because we no longer needed them.
If birds didn't come from dino's then how the hell did scientists recently manage to manipulate genes found in chickens that are also found in Raptors to give them teeth?
If we are supposed to live forever then why have scientists found that the sun has a finite amount of expendable energy before it super nova's and destroys the solar system?
If we are supposed to live forever why is it known that the Andromedia and Milkyway Galaxy will eventually murge there by destroying everything and then rebirthing into a new Galaxy? Does anyone remember seeing the computer model in the new "the wonders of God's Creation" video where this is shown happening as a simulation yet they seem to think we are all too stupid to know what is happening there? I think I remember them comparing it to a magnificent ordered ballet. *snickers*
I really wanna have fun with this thread so please add to this list of simple bible doctrine logic busters! I encourage some of the more diligent students of science to add there evidence and sources supporting these simple questions. Have you been brave enough to ask other active JW's some of these questions and what kind of non answers have you been given?
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30-minute Public Talk = More association ???
by Alfred init's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the service meeting.
the society would lovingly decrease the public talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting.... for those who still go to meetings... do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min public talk when compared to the former 45-min public talk?.
please share your observations.. thanks!.
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so much for loving fellowship!
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List all the debunks with sources
by thecrushed ini'd like to make a good sticky thread here.
i'd like to challenge all of you brainiacs to list all the debunks to the many wrong doctrines of the wt.
i want it to be to the point and devestatingly obvious and solid.
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I'd like to make a good sticky thread here. I'd like to challenge all of you brainiacs to list all the debunks to the many wrong doctrines of the WT. I want it to be to the point and devestatingly obvious and solid. What I don't want is long drawn out explanations.
1. Blood Doctrine
2. 1874-1914
3. Bible mistranslations to support doctrine
4. disfellowshipping
5. false prophesies
and anything else you can think of.
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Recent Letter to Witness Friends and Family
by sabastious inhaven't sent this yet: might not, but i think it would help people here:.
to all my family members and friends of the jehovahs witnesses.
for the past year and a half i have been deeply immersing myself in the community which you refer to as the apostates: the ex jehovahs witness community.
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Your story touches me to the core. One day soon I'll probably be going through the same pain. I only hope that I can be as courageous as you were and are. *hugs*