Posts by Quandary

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Catholics Smell Like TED JARACZ

by Nathan Natas in

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yeah, the roman catholic church leadership in virginia smells just like the spirit-anointed "boss" at the watchtower bible & tract society.... a priest who exposed sexual misconduct by fellow priests in northern virginia faces unspecified charges within the roman catholic church that supporters fear could lead to his defrocking.. in a court deposition, the reverend james haley exposed the affair that another priest had with a married woman.

he accused two other priests of hoarding gay pornography and one of them of stealing from collection plates.. the three accused priests resigned, but haley's supporters say he's been on involuntary leave for a year and faces further disciplinary action by arlington bishop paul loverde.. in his deposition, haley said he was overwhelmed by the amount of homosexual activity in the priesthood, but was stonewalled by loverde when he provided evidence of impropriety.. news stories follow.... link: http://fredericksburg.com/news/fls/2002/122002/12022002/1038872022 .

whistle-blower priest in trouble with diocese.

Quandary

Nathan:

I certainly agree with your commentary about the similarities between the Catholic Church and the WTBS.

On a different yet slightly related note- What has really bothered me as of late; is some information that I have gleaned over the past year or so as I visit this site occasionally and read some of the posts. Although I am still an active witness, in fact an elder, it is ONLY because of my family ties. I have already come to the conclusion that this organization does NOT have 'the truth', I have been able to detach God from any man made organization and maintain, in fact, strengthen my personal relationship with Him even more. Anyway, the information that has especially bothered me is rumors about members of the GB, ie Greenlees, Sydlik, and Jaracz having allegations against them of pedophilia. I don't have the time to really investigate the validity of these accusations, nonetheless I am not quick to discard these allegations as just spurts from disgruntled xjws. If the GB could be responsible for so many injustices as are mentioned in Ray Franz's book COC, (I have not read the book completely, just excerpts here and there) what's to stop them from committing gross sexual sins and even worse ,continue to display such a "holier than thou" attitude? If in the end these allegations are proven, I have a strong feeling it will disenchant so many, it might really be the one card that brings the "whole" house down.

Just a few of my personal thoughts-

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Thinking about Bill Bowen...

by Pathofthorns in

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i was looking over the thread... "should i support bill bowen?".

i realize i am one of the few people that gave bill somewhat of a difficult time pretty much from the beginning when it was not "fashionable" to do so.

it was never my hope to see the man reduced to what he has, but rather to gain a better understanding of the issues involved, the intents and goals of silentlambs and to see reasonableness govern everyone's actions in the whole affair.. imo, i don't think there is any other single person in the last while that has done so much to help address the issue of child abuse among jw's while at the same time exposing them for what they really are.

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Can someone elaborate about the allegation against a member of the GB molesting a young girl? While reading the posts on this topic Nancee Park mentioned it. I realize it is only an ALLEGATION, but I would be interested to find out any details. If I recall correctly, this brings the total members of the GB being implicated in molestation issues to three. Of course an allegation is NOT fact uless proven in a court of law, nonetheless, the fact that three members of the GB have had their names connected to this issue is disturbing to say the least.

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Is the Society selling any Brooklyn properties??

by Quandary in

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i have heard some rumors that the society is selling some of the properties in brooklyn.

specifically the furman st bldg was mentioned.

has anyone else heard this?

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Tom T:

Thanks for the link. Ill keep checking up to see what is reported regarding the Society's property sales.

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Is the Society selling any Brooklyn properties??

by Quandary in

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i have heard some rumors that the society is selling some of the properties in brooklyn.

specifically the furman st bldg was mentioned.

has anyone else heard this?

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Temp1-

This came from a very reliable source, one of the District Overseers I know.

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Is the Society selling any Brooklyn properties??

by Quandary in

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i have heard some rumors that the society is selling some of the properties in brooklyn.

specifically the furman st bldg was mentioned.

has anyone else heard this?

Quandary

I have heard some rumors that the Society is selling some of the properties in Brooklyn. Specifically the Furman St bldg was mentioned. Has anyone else heard this?

If this is true, Im wondering if this is preparation for possible sizeable payouts in the recent lawsuits being brought against them for pedophilia and the blood issue.

Any thoughts?

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Gilead Couples - gag

by joeshmoe in

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i was just thinking about the snoozefest i used to go through with each new gilead class.

the introductions were the worst!

im not sure you get the same feel from the doctored up articles in the wt, but listening to the couples was just maddening.. there was always at least 3 or 4 couples that would say the exact same thing: well, i wanted to be a missionary but couldnt go without a partner and my husband/wife was in the same predicament so we got married and here we are.

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Joe-

You obviously were assigned to assist the Gilead instructors. Did you have the opportunity to work closely with U. Glass? Did he not stand out as a truly sincere man? He and his wife Ann stayed with us a few years ago when he was asked to give the wedding talk for a friend of mine. Both he and Ann struck me as truly sincere people with a great sense of humor. Just wondering what your experience with them was.

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Dateline May 28th at 8:00 p.m.

by writerpen in

i checked the nbc time line for shows on may 28th and they have dateline listed as running at 8:00 p.m. est.

that evening with the nba game following.

normally dateline runs at 10:00 p.m. on tuesday, but they must have changed it for the game.

Quandary

Where are you getting the 8pm EST?
--click on a show or Network-------NBC-----TodayWeekend TodayNBC Nightly News with Tom BrokawDateline NBCMeet the PressNBC SportsConsumer AlertToday Summer Concerts-----MSNBC TV-----Imus on MSNBCHardball with Chris MatthewsMSNBC InvestigatesThe News with Brian WilliamsHeadliners & LegendsAmerica at WarWeekend MagazineMSNBC SpecialsNational Geographic ExplorerAshleigh Banfield On LocationMSNBC ReportsThe Abrams ReportAlan Keyes is Making Sense-----CNBC-----

Dateline NBC
Tuesdays (10-11 p.m.), Fridays (9-10 p.m.) and Sundays (7-8 p.m.)
The award winning prime time magazine show.

FRIDAY, MAY 24 - 8:00 PM ET
Bumper tests: On at a special time -- 8 PM
Midsize cars are some of the most popular on the road, but how expensive are they to fix after a fender-bender? Dateline NBC teamed up with the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety to test three categories of cars and find out how much it would cost to repair mid-size bumpers that suffered minor collisions.

SUNDAY, MAY 26 - 7:00 PM ET
Dateline is pre-empted
TUESDAY, MAY 28 - 10:00 PM ET

Dateline NBC investigates allegations that Jehovah’s Witness members have covered up cases of child molestation in the Church. Dateline Correspondent John Larson talked to former and current Jehovah’s Witnesses who say that Church elders protected the alleged molesters and kept secrets that might have put children at risk.

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Dateline's Necessity

by metatron in

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there is a new necessity for the dateline expose'.. fairness to catholics.. the blitz of media attention has focused almost exclusively.

on the catholic church and its priests.

yet, other centralized.

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Andi,

Thanks for your note. It's taken me a long time to feel comfortable posting on this board. I come from a VERY strong family in the truth-Father is PO, Im an elder, Mom is Reg Pio for 25yrs, sister is married to CO, aunt and uncle in branch work in foreign country, etc... So you see I have a LOT to contend with and although I NO longer believe The Watchtower is God's instrument in dispensing His Truth, my family obligations keep me on the inside. I tend to be laconic so don't expect long winded posts from me. I'm a "to the point" kinda guy.

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Dateline's Necessity

by metatron in

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there is a new necessity for the dateline expose'.. fairness to catholics.. the blitz of media attention has focused almost exclusively.

on the catholic church and its priests.

yet, other centralized.

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RunningMan I certainly agree with your commentary.

Just a side note, last week my family had visitors from Bethel stay with them and they mentioned that the Society is hoping the Catholic story will overshadow the JW story. Also, the CO visited us 3 weeks ago and at a get together one of the elders was talking about the Catholics and how disgusting the whole scandal was, well the CO told him not to be so indignant with the Catholics because "we have our share of similar problems". The elder was dumbfounded!! Poor guy, he has no idea--

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Dateline's Necessity

by metatron in

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friends

there is a new necessity for the dateline expose'.. fairness to catholics.. the blitz of media attention has focused almost exclusively.

on the catholic church and its priests.

yet, other centralized.

Quandary

I agree about the Dateline expose being necessary in all fairness to members of "Babylon the Great". Also, the Watchtower has to be brought before the court of public opinion in this most sensitive of issues because for decades it has been the FIRST to expose other relgious organizations for their crimes against humanity- What goes around comes around. After all, Galatians 6:7 says "Do NOT be mislead: God is NOT one to be mocked. For whatever a man is sowing this he WILL also reap;" It's God's law- they should not and will not be exempt-