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  WTS Will Stop Charging Interest on Loans

  by doinmypart in

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  the org will stop charging interest on kh building fund loans effective sep 1, 2008. current loan payment amounts will remain the same so the loans can be paid off sooner.. congregations should continue to donate to the kh building fund, and publishers can donate directly to the fund by sending donations directly to the branch.

  congregations are encouraged to forward surplus congregation and operating funds to the branch until the time those funds are needed by the congregation (this was actually read to the congregation...talk about full disclosure).. this is for all branches and congregations, not just the u.s..

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  When was this letter read?
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  News from Mother ship

  by jefferywhat in

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  1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

  2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

  was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

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  Actually, they are already registered as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses in one European country for the past ten years. Maybe they will make it the official worldwide name. Just speculating.

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  Calling all ELDERS

  by The Oracle in

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  if you are an elder who frequents this site, please let me know.. i am trying to connect (completely anonymously - your privacy is assured) with as many elders as i can.

  i know that there are hundreds of elders in the same position as myself (have had our awakening and have come to realize that "the truth" is a sham).. i encourage you to continue to serve as an elder and for you to work together with other like minded elders as a collective force for true good.

  there is much we can do from the inside to help the cause.. there are thousands and indeed millions of kind and honest hearted people whose only crime is that they have allowed themselves to be deceived and are still active jws.

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  Oracle:

  Any more updates about the success of your efforts? I truly wish you TONS of success!! I personally will be doing a complete fade by summer's end. I can't waste anymore of my life in the LIE! I have mentioned my serious doubts to two of my closest friends in the org. They sympathize but currently cannot make any moves because of family ties. The way I am planning to fade, my family ties will not be shaken. I can't expound now, but will be able to give my complete story in a few months.

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  News from Mother ship

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
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  1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

  2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

  was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

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  Can you expound on the change in the witnessing work? Although I remain cautiously optimistic as to the validity of this news, It is very intriguing!

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  Violations of privacy re: postal mail by JWs

  by Dogpatch in

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  i have been sending out orders of books to jws, ex-jws and others for over 25 years.

  sometimes plain wrap to keep the family's noses out of it.

  over the years i have seen the same constant pattern: whenever the questioning jw lives with or near family members who are currently jws, they want to break open the mail to see what others are ordering!!

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  Absolutely outrageous!! Total ignorance of common decency! Respect for a person's privacy is paramount in a civilized society. These people are totally nescient!
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  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
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  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

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  Of course you do realize that she will tell others that "he didn't want to discuss this further because he couldn't argue against the significance of it." Well, probably that's her take on it. Unreal ain't it.

  For the past year or so, I only make comments at the meeting on neutral, general issues, i.e. how we show christian love, what Jesus' example teaches us, etc... NEVER do I refer to what the "slave" says or do I ask for Jah's blessing on the FDS or GB in my prayers. I am sure the shrewd ones must be wondering about me already. Within a few months I will be so "out o there" it won't matter anymore!

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  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
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  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

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  Well, evidently this nonsense is making the rounds. A "sister" called my office today for her personal business but before ending the conversation she said 'What do think about these elections? Interesting times indeed, the end has to be close with a black being the favored candidate to win the election and the fact that it the was first time in history that a woman came so close blah blah blah' Mind you she is not in the same congregation as the elder mentioned at the begining of this thread.

  I said, "England had Margaret Thatcher, Germany has Angela Merkel, I don't think it would be a big deal if Hillary would have clinched the nomination. Regardless of whether a black man or a woman became president, it would still be an American democracy, not a different form of government."

  She said ' yeah, but it still is unprecedented and the fact that the US is the LAST world power this has to be very significant!!'

  Not wishing to waste my time discussing a moronic issue, I said "sorry, but I have a lot of work to do, talk to you lalter."

  I gave up. You cannot fight circular reasoning!

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  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

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  Will they ever cease to amaze, stun, and dumbfound us with their twisted reasoning?
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  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

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  This statement totally came out of left field- Although he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, he is usually coherent- I think the desperation of these old timers in the "truth" is getting to them. They cannot fathom the "end" not coming in their lifetime. It's actually quite sad and pathetic.

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  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

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  An elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end MUST be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the US. All other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and Satan cannot claim that Jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'. Almost verbatim! I was totally dumbfounded!

  How the heck is a black man as president a different form of government??

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