Quester

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  Evolution vs Creation and spontaneous generation

  by MrMoe in

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  please read it all, i know it's a bit long, but you need to read it all to see where i am coming from.

  i beleive in creation in the sense that the big bang and spontaneous generation don't make logical sense to me.

  i am sure funkyderek and jan will have some fun with me on this one.

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  rem - I appreciated your comments
  and thanks for the book recommendation.
  I will check into this.
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  Who is a Prodigal Son?

  by Thirdson in

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  on occasion i have commented on the difference between the compassion of jesus and the lack of mercy shown by the wts.

  i had reason to reread the story of the prodigal son recently and i thought id compare the wts writing in the greatest man book to what i take the parable to mean.. you know the story jesus told.

  boy leaves home with his inheritance, lives the good life, spends it all and hits rock-bottom.

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  Thirdson,

  Thanks for the good post.
  I'm going to save it and read it over
  more carefully when I go offline.

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  how have YOU changed since leaving?

  by idaho in

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  it's obvious that the sense of freedom is a dominant.

  feeling among most persons here, but it would be .

  interesting to hear in what way(s) you feel you .

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  lauralisa - loved your post. The comments about car groups
  in field service made me laugh cuz I can relate! Hey, did you
  ever see that movie "Stuart Saves His Family"? I loved
  that movie.

  Hello to newbies - hungry4life and Karie.

  The biggest change I notice right now in my life
  since leaving the org is I am not as judgmental
  and no longer have that "we/them" mentality about
  people. JW's believe they are right and everyone
  else is wrong and they have to recruit them into
  the religion so they won't be destroyed at Armageddon.

  Now I can just enjoy people for who they are without
  thinking I have to change them or recruit them.

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  Does the WTS hold to the truth in love?

  by CornerStone in

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  i was reading my bible this morning,(some of us still do :) ), and i came across these verses;.

  11he is the one who gave these gifts to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers.

  12their responsibility is to equip gods people to do his work and build up the church, the body of christ, 13until we come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of gods son that we will be mature and full grown in the lord, measuring up to the full stature of christ.. 14then we will no longer be like children, forever changing our minds about what we believe because someone has told us something different or because someone has cleverly lied to us and made the lie sound like the truth.

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  Thanks for the good read, Ginny and CornerStone.

  Why would fear, intimidation, and threats of disfellowshipping
  to keep people in line be needed if JW's were really motivated
  by love as they claim? Very revealing isn't it.

  "Mama" doesn't allow her children to grow up and become
  independent mature adults. She keeps them helpless dependent
  babes.

  If you want to grow up, you gotta leave the nest.

  I outgrew the jw religion and that's why I left.
  I grew up.

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  What is your favorite bible translation?

  by Stealth in

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  being raised as a jw all of my life, the only bible that i have ever used was the nwt.

  i would like to start reading some from another bible other than this translation.. for those who have compared several bible translations, i would like to know what translation you liked or prefer the most and why.. regards, stealth

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  Stealth,

  Check out the Bible Research forum.
  There are a couple of threads on
  "Which Bible to get?"

  .. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/forum.asp?id=51&site=3

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  Question on anger

  by claudia in

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  hello everyone, i was wondering how those of you who are so angry .

  deal with your anger?

  i at times am consumed with anger at the wts, and to those who will tell me to just move on, well i did move on but its not so easy to totally dismiss everything when you still have family there.

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  Claudia,

  I think anger is a necessary part of the whole
  recovery process.

  So instead of trying to "keep from feeling anger,"
  I would say have your anger and move through it,
  find healthy safe nondestructive ways to deal with it.

  1. Physical exercise helps.
  2. Journaling about it helps.
  3. Talking about it with a safe person who understands helps.

  Anger is a stage to move through,
  not get stuck in or avoid/deny.
  
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  Who/What Preached at Your Funeral?

  by Sam Beli in

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  someone started an interesting thread about what music wed like played at our funeral.

  the logical next step is to ask of what the funeral itself would consist.

  since becoming an ex-jw i have been wondering what my wife (also now an ex-jw) would do if i preceded her in death.

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  I have thought about this and need
  to put something in writing.

  I bought a book from the Unitarian
  Universalist bookstore that has different
  ideas on the topic.

  "In Memoriam A Guide to Modern Funeral and
  Memorial Services", By Edward Searl

  bookstore website:
  * http://www.uua.org/bookstore/newbookstore.html

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  Questions for JWs

  by larc in

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  dear jw,.

  i have some questions.

  as i understand it, if armageddon came tomorrow, those that never heard the truth, in such places as india or china would either live through armageddon or die and be resurrected.

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  Larc, you must be up the same time as me.

  You wrote: "The way I understood it is that
  if you had no opportunity to learn the truth,
  then if was not your fault, and you would find
  yourself in the new world."

  Yes, I agree with that statement.
  If you die in ignorance, BEFORE Armageddon,
  jw's will say that you may be resurrected.

  But this does not apply to those alive when
  Armageddon comes. JW's say that the only
  survivors of Armageddon will be active faithful
  JW's--and even that is only a "probably".

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  What is faith REALLY?

  by Silverleaf in

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  i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

  "we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

  if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

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  Ranchette quoted from October 1,2001 issue
  of the watchtower: "As used in the Bible however
  "faith" basically means total trust-complete,
  unshakable confidence in God and his promises."

  As used by JW's "faith" means total trust--complete,
  unshakable confidence in...THE ORG.

  Larc, If God really did speak to us as he spoke
  to Abraham, I wonder if we would just think we were
  crazy.

  I think God probably does speak to us, maybe not in
  that sensational way, but in other ways and perhaps
  we just dismiss it or discount it.

  To me, faith means believing enough to take the first
  step and then the next and then thru experience we
  come to know and experience God.

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  Questions for JWs

  by larc in

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  2. friends

  dear jw,.

  i have some questions.

  as i understand it, if armageddon came tomorrow, those that never heard the truth, in such places as india or china would either live through armageddon or die and be resurrected.

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  The way I always understood it is if you
  are alive when Armaggedon comes and you are
  not an active faithful Jehovah's Witness you
  will be destroyed with no hope of resurrection
  because it is God's war, God doing the destroying.

  And even the active faithful JW's only get a
  "probably" be concealed in the day of Jah's
  anger.

  Never made any sense to me when I actually
  thought about it.

  That creates a fear-based relationship with God,
  not a love-based relationship.

  Quester