i agreed yesterday to engage in the '607' topic.
i've read numerous threads and am well aware that this topic has been addressed and dissected quite thoroughly.
therefore, if you are uninterested in participating, that's fine.
Regurgitating quashed arguments
Endless threads with no resolution
C laiming JW status but ignorant of WTS advice
O verly patronising
Vexed by those who don't share his point of view
E xpert of the multi-font multi-colour post
R ound and round and round we go
Y ou've been found out mister
i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.
that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.
the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.
Wait a minute.
GINGERBREAD LATTE?
What is this sorcery?
first of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.
i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.
i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.
I'm sensing a similar modus operandi to a recently banned user...
There really is a lot of information on this website. A lot of benefit can come from reading as much as you can and commenting on or posting questions within already existing threads. There is info on pretty much every conceivable JW related topic here.
I encourage all new users (myself included) to dig around before starting a new thread. When a thread gets started requesting questions that you think you will be able to answer and defend, all you are going to get is an avalanche of questions that you have no hope of answering due to the volume, complexity, and variety of subject matter.
Find a thread that is already about the subject you are interested in, read it thoroughly, and then, if your questions haven't been answered, post them in that thread.
To answer your question Ethos, I would love to have a JW explain to me why despite the United Nations being part of the beast the WTS had no issue with becoming a NGO member of that beast, specifically signing up to its ideals in order to attain and maintain membership? And why was it only when they got exposed as cuddling up to the beast that they nulled the relationship? To most people this sounds like when a criminal says sorry. Are they sorry for what they have done, or sorry that they got caught?
we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
Some notes from the Service Meeting this week:
Bible Highlights on the book of Amos
The brother doing the highlights in our congregation compared window cleaners, dish washers and those people the hold the stop / go signs at roadworks to Amos because he was a 'nipper of figs'. 'Just as Amos wouldn't have had his own crop, or flock of sheep, many brothers today take menial work in order to have more time for the kingdom work.'
But the reality is Amos did not take this work in order to have more time for kingdom work. He was doing this work already at the time of commencing prophesying. In a majority of cases, the menial work that is taken on by some people has more to do with not having any education and training than any desire to free up time to do kingdom work. When Someone Says "You Don't Believe in Jesus" Why does there need to be a Service Meeting part on how to answer this question? Are JWs so dumb that they can't say 'Actually, that's not correct we believe in Jesus and he plays a key part in our service and worship.' and then carry on with a normal presentation? Oh that's right, the robots need to be programmed to spout the party line. See Good for Your Hard Work This article opens with these words: Man was designed to “see good because of his hard work.” (Eccl.2:24) That sentence makes sense doesn't it? The WTS is adept at make two separate ideas sound like one coherent idea. But does Ecclesiastes 2:24 say anything about man being designed to see good for his hard work....? Read and parse the words of the WTS and you will often find they make it sound like the bible says things that it does not. When the writer of Ecclesiastes penned those words, there was no such thing as the preaching work. The satisfaction and enjoyment mentioned here is part of a long rant about how pointless and vexatious life is. The writer is basically saying 'life is vanity and striving after wind, so take enjoyment from little things like a job well done.'
i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.
that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.
the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.
Ha ha, yes I have read that 1Q84 generates one of three reactions - they love it, or they hate it, or they don't 'get' it. I haven't read any other Murakami, but based on this book, I certainly will.
On the opposite end of the scale, the worst book I have ever read is called The Codex. Pure crap. One of the reviews I read on Amazon - which I read after completing reading it - said "I lost my copy of this book. I hope I never find it."
The Book Thief is another good one.
we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
If pioneers are the WTS's idea of the 'ideal' JW, then there is going to be a lot of generic brand food and second hand suits in the New World...
:-D
we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
True true, we never know what impact our words have on others.
Having said that, he's one of those pioneers. You know, the ones that turn up at your house right on lunchtime, 'just to say hello, oh you're having lunch, I won't distur...what you want me to stay for lunch, how kind of you!' The ones that bring an 89c bottle of soft drink to a BBQ and eat all the eye fillet. The ones that suggest the group gets coffee and then hangs back when it is time to pay...
Hee hee :-D
we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
Today on my way home I saw a pioneer brother walking along a footpath. I pulled over and picked him up. On our way to his house we came up to a line of traffic so we stopped. We were in a lane heading straight and the lane on our right was a turning lane . A moron came up on our right, past all the other cars waiting patiently, he had his indicator on as he wanted to get in to our lane. He was in the turning lane, but had no intention of turning, he was just using it to skip ahead and not have to wait in line like every body else.
As the lights changed I moved on with the traffic and did not let the guy in (neither did the three cars behind me). Drivers like this annoy the heck out of me, and stuff like this is common in our area.
My dear pioneer brother says 'That wasn't very nice, you didn't let that guy in'. Obviously being a pioneer gives you the right to tell people who have kindly picked you up how to drive. I turned to him and said 'I'm just doing exactly what Jehovah is going to do to athiests at Armageddon.' You could see the rusty gears working in his head by the look on his face. What do you expect he's a JW so not used to thinking....
'What do you mean?' he asked. So I replied and said 'That guy, with all his thinking ability made a series of decisions and in the end it was a bad call. Athiests have been given a brain and free will, and with these the have made a series of decisions that have led them to be athiest. Even though Jehovah was the one who gave them the brain and the free will, he is going to kill those athiests at Armageddon, along with everyone else who hasn't decided to serve Jehovah.'
'Oh yes,' he says I see what you mean. Such a shame that nice people have to die.
My attempt to show him the illogicality of bible based 'free will' went waaaaay over his head. It may not be a wholly sound argument, but it was the best I could come up with at short notice.....
i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.
that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.
the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.
Murakami used the JWs as the basis for one of the cults in 1Q84. In the book they go by the name "Society of Witnesses" and the comparison is unmistakeable - door to door work, Sunday worship, can't have birthdays etc. I'm only up to page 235 of 1300 and already I don't want it to ever end. A brilliant work of subtle plot development.
Highly recommended.
i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.
that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.
the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.
I'm reading 1Q84 at the moment and am utterly engrossed in it.
