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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Hello everyone,

Thank you for your comments and ongoing interest in how things have been going with Mrs Smith and I. Sorry for the lack of updates recently, it has been a rather hectic month. Unfortunately I was laid off from my job, but thankfully, within a week I was back working, this time at a better job, with better people, better location, and better pay. If I was still a JW I would no doubt be thanking Jehovah for looking after me.

Sadly, even though things have been going great with the new job, I had noticed that some of my text messages to my mum were going unanswered, or at best I was getting one or two word replies back. The cloud darkened when Mrs Smith told me that in an online chat with mum she had said that she was thinking long and hard about whether "I should obey Jehovah or...." she never articulated what the "or..." meant, but I think we all know.

In fact we do know.

I got this last night:

My very dear Winston and Mrs Smith

I have done an awful lot of thinking, research, spoken to an ex elder, asked him heaps of questions, prayed, cried, worried, got angry, and a million other emotions have flooded through me since your decision. I wish I had been able to discuss it further with you but then it was too late. I am glad you stuck up for your own beliefs and were true to yourselves but how I wish you had just let it all ride and become inactive. However I realise that to live with yourself you had to do what you felt was best for you. So now we both live with the consequences of your decision.

Thank you for sharing all that you were able to as it made it "easier" for me to see where you were coming from. For me, this is the truth, despite the imperfections of humans. Many things I feel upset about at times but it comes down to the fact that there are many many other things I do agree with in the Bible and within the organisation. We are in the last days and I am content to wait on Jehovah to sort things out in his time.

So with heavy heart I am going to have to do what you did not want and discontinue contact. It breaks my heart in little pieces to do it but like you, I have to be true to my own beliefs. And my conscience and loyalty to Jehovah bothers me to do otherwise.

Having Mrs Smith stay inactive so as to keep contact seems hypocritical to me, knowing that she feels the same as you, so knowing that, having contact with her seems wrong to me.

This is so hard to write so forgive me if I have not explained things as well as I would like. Have no doubt whatsoever that I love you both and never dreamed I would have to face this situation. I am always here in case you ever need me in an emergency.

I love you my boy Mum xxxxxx

While I must be honest and say I am not totally surprised, I nonetheless gutted.

Foxtrot

Uniform

Charlie

Kilo

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Rockville Jehovahs Witnesses at Odds With Neighbors Over Expansion

by WinstonSmith in

video ---> http://bcove.me/ngpt1k0f.

rockville, md.

(wjla) - a rockville church is at odds with its neighbors.

WinstonSmith

That comment by the architect at the end was so full of irony. "We preach love" yeah, but when you decide that the JW life is not for you, we'll cut you out like cancer.

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Rockville Jehovahs Witnesses at Odds With Neighbors Over Expansion

by WinstonSmith in

video ---> http://bcove.me/ngpt1k0f.

rockville, md.

(wjla) - a rockville church is at odds with its neighbors.

WinstonSmith

Video ---> http://bcove.me/ngpt1k0f

ROCKVILLE, Md. (WJLA) - A Rockville church is at odds with its neighbors. The dispute centers on a project to expand the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witness along Great Falls Road near Maryland Avenue.

The controversy lies within a 1920’s home, which the church bought five years ago. The congregation wants to add a worship hall onto the structure to lessen the burden on its main facility next door. But some residents would rather preserve the property.

Historians say the modest two-story house was owned by freed slaves during the 1880's.

“So this is a very important property and area to preserve and we want to get more history documented as we go forward,” says Jim Coyle, president of the Rose Hill Falls Homeowner's Association.

But the Kingdom Hall, which owns the land, wants to build a 135-seat worship hall onto the back of the house.

Church elder Rod Escobar says his parish bought the home in 2008 after it sat abandoned for two years.

“It was in ill repair,” he says. “It needed a lot of work. It was full of rodents, overgrown, no one could see the house.”

The church poured $40,000 into renovations and collected $500,000 for construction.

“We knew it was going to be an effort, but not like this, not five years.”

“It looks like an appendage that doesn’t belong,” says Marsha Douma.

Douma is against the addition, requesting Rockville add the house to its historic registry.

“We will no longer have a house that can function as a reminder of the historic value and history of our community," Douma says.

“We want to have good relations with our neighbors. You know, we don’t want to fight with them because that’s not what we preach. We preach love, like Jesus did," says Jackson Jimenez.

The Rockville City Council is accepting public input through Monday with a final vote expected by Oct. 14.

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This WT book allows one raised as a JW to do a critical review of the religion and elders can't go against it.

by EndofMysteries in

i love this gem, it was taken off the jw.org website, it seems only material after 1990 is up now, but it's here, http://www.scribd.com/doc/5472988/the-time-for-true-submission-to-god .

page 6, "the need to search for the truth".

says this....and i couldn't agree with it more!

WinstonSmith

Great post! They hate it when you use their own words against them. It means they can't give a smug and arrogant answer but have to fluff and fumble with their cognitive dissonance.

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Yeah not sure what is up with the whole no contact thing. I was tempted to reply to the COBE and say "Oh and by the way your sheep that lives with me is fine, thanks for checking on her" but held back. It is entirely logical that the first person they spoke to was Sister T as she was the one that was closest to us. I have no doubt that she would have happily mentioned that Mrs Smith was of the same mind as me. Perhaps that is what has happened. Time will tell. Their lack of genuine care for their sheep is abundantly obvious.

As for destroying my records, I just threw that in the letter not really thinking that they would do it. I know when people come in to the WTS they are encouraged to contact any churches they were part of and request that their records be destroyed. I only asked because of that (whats good for the goose...). As far as I am aware it is not a legal requirement. It wouldn't even surprise me if they don't destroy them, but only say they have.

When someone DA's, the bethel is advised, so I am guessing that I have been moved from the shiny filing cabinet in to the one with the busted hinges and dents on the side.

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

It is done.

Got this in my inbox today:

Subject: Receipt of letter

Hi Winston

Just confirming that your letter requesting disassociation has been received. We will also destroy any congregation records as you wish.

Kind Regards
<name>

Sent from my iPhone

And with that brief emotionless message I am cut adrift to die like an animal at Armageddon.

Interestingly, since I sent my letter, Mrs Smith has not been contacted by any elders to check up on her spiritual health now that she is stuck with a fire breathing child molesting cocaine sniffing horn headed hoof toed apostate. Good to know they care about their sheep!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Hi there Free2bme13,

Thanks for reading through the diary. I realise looking back through it that there is a lot of info there, along with some highs and lows. We are very happy to be where we are now.

The decision to DA or not is a personal one, and one that each individual must make based on their unique situation and circumstances. Either way it is a big call, but it has to be right for you.

Wonderful that you have a family member that understands and respects your situation. One of the biggest issues I have with the WTS is that they expect everyone to respect their religion, choices, and lifestyle, but offer none of the same respect to anyone else. Hypocrite central.

Thank you for your kind words, all the best for your journey out!

Winston

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

JW Logic 101

The class is now in session.

Mrs Smith: I thought it was really rude that people deleted Winston from Facebook without even saying anything to him or trying to help him.

JW: Well 1 Corinthians 5:11 says we should not have company with DA'd people.

Mrs Smith: The scripture doesn't say that at all. It says you should quit mixing with a brother who is a fornicator, reviler (etc) Winston has done none of things.

JW: Actually yes, you are right that does not apply to Winston, sorry. But he has rejected God's organisation so that's why we should cut him off.

Engage facepalm mode.

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I'll Take Your Literature if You Take Mine

by VM44 in

in the september, 2013 okm, september, on page 3 appears "i'll take your literature if you take mine.".

that is the proposition of some householders.

since we do not exchange our bible study aids for religious literature that disseminates error, how might we answer tactfully?

WinstonSmith

Back in New Zealand we had a old brother who used to reply like this:

"No thanks.I made the effort to come to your door today. If you come to mine I'll take it."

The day he said it when out with me a householder said "Okay, what's your address?"

The old bro says "Smith Street."

The HH said "What number?"

The old bro said "Just knock on all of them, you'll find me."

Hilarious!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Right on the money as usual Oubliette! Sadly the WTS is very good at what they do. They have wriggled their way in between the people and Jesus. "Jesus is the way, and the truth, and the light, yes! And we are the way to Jesus!" Rinse, repeat.

I thought this was interesting from yesterday: When I sent friend requests to my two mates (who we will call Kevin and James) the response was interesting. After a year and a half of no contact, Kevin accepted my request within 20 minutes and sent me a message that said "Hi Winston your friend request was a surprise. I hope everything is okay?" and then about a minute later "OMG I just read your message! Are you serious? You just made my day!" And from there were blabbed all afternoon.

Remember when I sent my message to my JW frieds on Facebook, and they silently unfriended me? Well, here is someone who has been out of contact for a long time, and their first thought, before they even read the reason for my message, was "are you okay?"

Good to know who your real friends are.