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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Hi everyone!

It is an absolutely gorgeous day here in my city. Had a lovely weekend just chilling out with Mrs Smith.

Nothing to report on as far things are going with mum, the extent of contact has remained at a Like and / or comment here and there on my blog.

Thought I would share something that has popped up a couple of times in the last little while.

Since I DA'd I have not seen or run into any JWs anywhere. I am waiting for the day when I get my first official shun ha ha. I have always wondered what I would say, I guess it would depend on what they said. Anyway about a month ago I was walking to work having left the train station about 5 minutes before. I got to my corner and when the lights changed, crossed the road. As I was almost across I noticed approaching me from the right was a JW that I knew. He was not in the congregation that I was in when I DA'd, but in one that shared the same hall.

We saw each other at the same time, and I thought, "Here we go!" But to my surprise he walked right up with his hand out for a shake and greeted me with a "Hey bro!" Straightaway I thought, "Okay he is either being really cool, or he doesn't know that I am DA'd. We stood on the corner for a couple of minutes making small talk - where we worked etc - and in amongst it he asked me where which congregation we were in now. I said "Oh man we have moved house, and we are all over place" He just laughed and said "Yeah I know what that is like. We live in X territory, but go to Y congregation." I laughed with him and said "Well, there ain't no scripture against that!". He agreed and said "They are pretty relaxed about that kind of thing now."

We then parted and went on our merry ways. He obviously has no idea that I am DA'd, and I saw no reason to bring it up.

Then last week, I had just got out of the station when I felt a tug on my jacket. I turned around and it was him. Again, handshakes and hey bros. As we walked down toward the corner where we met last time, I was wondering if he might have heard about my DA. Maybe he has mentioned to someone that he has seen me and they had said that I was out. But then I thought that if that were true, and he was in dub-mode, then he probably wouldn't have tugged my jacket, but remained silently behind me.

As we walked along we talked about work being busy, the weather, nothing real deep. It is literally a 5 minutes walk so we soon parted ways again.

I wonder how this will turn out?

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Jehovah's Witness 70, stripped of all privileges, jailed for historic sex abuse against his young stepdaughter prior to being a Witness. Nelson, New Zealand

by Sol Reform in

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/9458000/man-70-jailed-for-historic-sex-abuse.

man, 70, jailed for historic sex abuse james greenland last updated 13:00 29/11/2013.

share a nelson man has been jailed for six years for historical sex offences against his young stepdaughter.the victim spoke in the nelson district court at the sentencing of stephen robert carter, 70, this week.. she described the deep psychological trauma she had lived with as an adult as a result of his controlling and manipulative sexual abuse in the family home.. she explained the difficulty of living under a "burden of secrecy", unable to tell anyone about what carter did to her because of the effect it would have on his high standing within the nelson jehovah's witness congregation.. carter had admitted seven charges, including representative charges of rape, sodomy, inducing a girl under 12 to do an indecent act, permitting a girl under 12 to do an indecent act on another male, and counts of committing an indecency with an animal, and being party to an indecency with an animal.. the court heard that carter converted to christianity about three years after ceasing the sexual abuse, which he initiated under the false pretence of sexual education when his stepdaughter was 10 and 11.. in one of the first instances of "grooming", carter showed the victim his semen under a microscope, the court heard.

WinstonSmith

As sung by The Bloodhound Gang: "We don't need no water, let the mother****** burn"

That final quote from the article is chilling.

I hope this lady gets all the help she needs.

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What a beautiful setting for ignorance! - Play my 20 questions type game.

by nicolaou in

brits might find this easier but where do you think i snapped this yesterday?

i'll only answer with a yes or no.. .

huge kudos to the winner.

WinstonSmith

Good to see they are following the advice of the Octopope and "going where the people are" I can see that they will be inundated by the thronging masses.

Is this really what counts as 'witnessing' these days?

No matter which language you translate this into, its always going to read 'desperate, waste of time'.

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C,O's,D,O's from down under...who remembers??

by karter in

wolford and betty john,nice loveing couple,always loved children.. arther and tinnie roderson, nice couple he passed away some years ago too young from cancer.. wiakato and hine gray couldn't ask for better people.. jack teesie ..single guy would never go to a single sisters place for dinner even if she had children apperantly a bad look.. joe sleighman and wife nice couple were d.o's leaft and joined our side.. sandy pannell and wife...he reminded me of bill clinton always love to look down from the stage and wave his left finger at the congro....never liked him.. han's hubler,nuff said has been a few threads started about him.. there is many more.. karter..

WinstonSmith

Hey Joe, I grew up sitting behind Glendenning the meetings. Don't remember too much about him as I was young. I'm fairly sure they moved to the South Island and are still there.

We were good friends with Kelvin and Sarah. Good memories of he and I sitting on my patio sipping beers while the BBQ sizzled away. The best times to have COs over was Sunday evenings because all their work was done and their weekend was underway.

Tell me more about the talk of his that started you on the way out....

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C,O's,D,O's from down under...who remembers??

by karter in

wolford and betty john,nice loveing couple,always loved children.. arther and tinnie roderson, nice couple he passed away some years ago too young from cancer.. wiakato and hine gray couldn't ask for better people.. jack teesie ..single guy would never go to a single sisters place for dinner even if she had children apperantly a bad look.. joe sleighman and wife nice couple were d.o's leaft and joined our side.. sandy pannell and wife...he reminded me of bill clinton always love to look down from the stage and wave his left finger at the congro....never liked him.. han's hubler,nuff said has been a few threads started about him.. there is many more.. karter..

WinstonSmith

Jeff Ridlings wife's name is Mary. Such a lovely lady from what I remember. Sheesh if she is till alive, she must be in her 90s?

The Prices that I mentioned in my earlier post were Kelvin and Sarah. They were really nice too.

Joe134cd - Man reading through your list brought back some memories! There are some 'classics' on there. Didn't know that the Kramers were overseas. He was a good speaker, in fact he even gave my baptism talk. You could really hear his theatrical background when he spoke and sung. I remember him talking about Alice's anger problem at an assembly too. I remember thinking it was a heart wrenching story, but could never work out how it related to the talk he was giving...

Any ideas about the Geoff that I mentioned? He is a really tall and solidly built guy. Blondish with glasses. They were in the Auckland area around the time we left NZ. I'm leaning toward his last name being Stephenson, but honestly can't remember.

This is a great thread Karter, bringing back some good memories of times gone by. The only COs that I have dealt with that I didn't like have been here in Australia. Peter Kitchen for example is an a-grade wanker.

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C,O's,D,O's from down under...who remembers??

by karter in

wolford and betty john,nice loveing couple,always loved children.. arther and tinnie roderson, nice couple he passed away some years ago too young from cancer.. wiakato and hine gray couldn't ask for better people.. jack teesie ..single guy would never go to a single sisters place for dinner even if she had children apperantly a bad look.. joe sleighman and wife nice couple were d.o's leaft and joined our side.. sandy pannell and wife...he reminded me of bill clinton always love to look down from the stage and wave his left finger at the congro....never liked him.. han's hubler,nuff said has been a few threads started about him.. there is many more.. karter..

WinstonSmith

Karter, thanks for the info on Ridling. Always liked him and Mary. They settled in our congregation when the finished the circuit work. That dude had the best eyebrows.

You don't happen to originate from the central north by any chance do you?

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

I have made three posts over the last week on my blog, and Mum has clicked Like on all three and commented on two of them. Not big comments, just two or three words.

Still no reply to my email.

I think she is trying to tell me "I'm keeping in touch as best I can within the rules" or something........

Little by little the battle is won.

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More WT Propaganda: 10 Year Old Children Should Get Baptized!

by Oubliette in

i just caught this in an upcoming study article which will be "studied" in the congregations the week of 11/18-24/13:.

he and his wife were elated when their eldest daughter, age ten, told them that she loved her parents, loved the brothers and sisters, and loved jehovah very much.

she said that she wanted to dedicate her life to jehovah and get baptized.

WinstonSmith

Even when I was 'in' it used to bemuse me when the WTS would mock the churches for infant baptism yet they and their ardent followers would be the first to rejoice at a young one getting dunked. "Did you hear about little Johnny, he got baptised and he's only 10! Such a wonderful example."

One of the reasons that WTS mocks the churches is because babies are in no position to make a decision such as getting baptised. I ask you, what 10 year old is in any position to make this decision and be cognisant of the fact that if they change their mind later they will lose their entire family, and actually understands what this could mean for them?

Child abuse on so many levels is rampant among God's chosen people.

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C,O's,D,O's from down under...who remembers??

by karter in

wolford and betty john,nice loveing couple,always loved children.. arther and tinnie roderson, nice couple he passed away some years ago too young from cancer.. wiakato and hine gray couldn't ask for better people.. jack teesie ..single guy would never go to a single sisters place for dinner even if she had children apperantly a bad look.. joe sleighman and wife nice couple were d.o's leaft and joined our side.. sandy pannell and wife...he reminded me of bill clinton always love to look down from the stage and wave his left finger at the congro....never liked him.. han's hubler,nuff said has been a few threads started about him.. there is many more.. karter..

WinstonSmith

Cox, Kramer, Ridling, Sleighman, Teesey, Price, Rogers, Black, and there was another one, can't remember his last name, but his first name is Geoff, big tall guy with glasses.

And even further back, maybe around Joe Sleighman's time there was an older guy who's name i can never remember, but who's face I can see clearly. Made everyone sing two songs at the Devonport Assembly hall one year, back when they had a mini orchestra playing the music.

Damn I'm ooooooooooooooold!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

K99: I guess I am an optimist!

As for my blog, oooooooh it is tempting to post it here as blogging is a favourite hobby of mine. I am a hack amateur photographer and it is full of my poor attempts at the art, along with my ramblings on life and a commentary on the adventures of Mrs Smith and I as we trundle about here and there. It is immediately obvious when you go there that it belongs to me (by my real name) and I am not quite ready to pull off the mask just yet. However if you send me a nice PM (and beer), I might share the link with you....