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  Kettle calling the pot black?

  by brokethechain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  june 22, 2000 awake on propaganda.

  "by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.

  " adolf hitler, mein kampf.".

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  Oddly enough they conclude in the Awake article that JWs are NOT propagandist.
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  Kettle calling the pot black?

  by brokethechain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  june 22, 2000 awake on propaganda.

  "by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.

  " adolf hitler, mein kampf.".

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  June 22, 2000 Awake on Propaganda

  "By clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise." —ADOLF HITLER, MEIN KAMPF."

  best quote in article: "THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion."
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  Fundamentalist Apostates

  by brokethechain in

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  landover baptist church parody i thought was pretty funny.. http://landoverbaptist.org/.

  http://www.landoverbaptist.net/.

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  Landover Baptist Church Parody I thought was pretty funny.

  http://landoverbaptist.org/

  http://www.landoverbaptist.net/
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  What's your Myers-Briggs?

  by Londo111 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am infp.. some former witnesses in my hometown had a meetup last night...alas, only four of us.

  but it turned out we had an infp(me), two infjs, and an enfp.

  therefore, it turned out we were all idealists.

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  ENFP, mate is INFJ
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  How credible is the dating of Daniel?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for example the hairy he-goat is very precise?

  i have read some works on the subject but would like your input..

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  Leolaia - no, I probably don't have anything beyond what you just said. My superficial research only lead to my conclusion that the dead sea scrolls still don't prove any prophecy written before the fulfilment (something that as a JW I had taken for granted. I had believed that the dead sea scroll fragments dated pre-B.C.E. contained the messianic prophecy and the struggle between the king of the north/south.

  I guess I should have read more on what has already been posted on the Daniel book. I'm new to this site.
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  How credible is the dating of Daniel?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for example the hairy he-goat is very precise?

  i have read some works on the subject but would like your input..

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  The scrolls skip text that would be in 9 and move on to 10. I'll try to find the sources (they were scholarly) and will elaborate on my hypotheses later...
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  Quick question, did you feel lonely at the meetings even though you were part of the action?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious, something i've noticed only lately.

  i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.

  i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.

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  I loved the meetings mostly for the social aspect. We'd go to the pub after the weeknight meeting and for brunch after the Sunday meeting. I was tempted to go back to meetings after my fade simply because I missed the social aspect. And during pub/brunch, we usually did not discuss the meeting. Unless something funny had happened and we could make fun of the speaker. Or once every 6 months, we'd actually have a good speaker, and someone would gush about the great talk.

  Of course, I admit it was a bit clicky. I'm sure some others from the congo felt excluded. But I personally had loads of fun and miss these friendships. Sure, they were conditional friendships, but I still think they are nice people - only misdirected.
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  How credible is the dating of Daniel?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for example the hairy he-goat is very precise?

  i have read some works on the subject but would like your input..

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  Once I started looking at archeological and scientific evidence, there was so little left to base any belief that the bible could have any superhuman origin. I did cling to the book of Daniel for a while.

  But I couldn't find ANY evidence that any of the prophecies were written before they happened. The prophecies that refer to the Roman empire & the Messianic prophecies (which would not have happened yet for those scrolls dated B.C.) were not in the Dead Sea Scrolls (chapter 9, the last part of chapter 11 and chapter 12 are all missing from the dead sea scrolls that date BC).

  If I ever find one miniscule shred of evidence that the bible could have some sort of superhuman origin, I would look at it. For the believers, I wonder why god, in all his superpowers, would not have caused at least one solid piece of evidence that this book wasn't written by some nutcases and policians.
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  Who Run's JWFacts?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  thank's for the new word "eisegesis", while reading your article on jesus christ's mediatorship between mankind and the annointed (now governing body) 144,000.. you content is very good as you present your case with valuable insights without attacking witnesses as "morons, idiots, cult" or like some other agencies do!

  cheerio!.

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  JW facts rocks!

  I love how objective it is.

  During my initial period of doubts, I believe that if I had stumbled across an ex-jw site that was aggressive against the WT, the GB or even about the bible or god, it would have taken me way, way longer to leave the org. Instead, jwfacts presents facts in a matter of fact way, it addressed every doubt I had ever had about the org.

  I was able to move on to the next stage at a later time to then tackle my doubts about the bible.
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  Is leaving the JW's like release from Prison ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was listening this morning to the experience of sonia "sunny" jacobs, who was on death row for a long time, until her case was properly dealt with.. she explained that upon leaving prison after all those years it was amazing !

  "the colours!

  " she said, in prison all is grey or black , but outside in the free world, so many colours!.

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  Yes, especially the first months after leaving, I remember appreciating the most simple freedoms that everyone around me took for granted. Silly things like clinking my glass without a mental conversation at a business lunch or wearing an above the knee skirt would almost make me dizzyingly happy.