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  Dubs vs. Scientology

  by seahart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone noticed the little scuffel with the scientologist?

  they seem to have had their feelings hurt in a cartoon.

  funny that they are not being potrayed as having crazy beliefs, and why is it being down played in the news?

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  Could you please provide a link to this cartoon controversy? I'm not familiar with it.
  
  This is an interesting subject with me. Last summer I deliberately took a hiatus from JWD and decided to fill the void with learning about Scientology -- NOT that I wanted to be a member, mind you, but rather so I could compare levels of Cultishness to JWs.
  
  Overall, I would say that -- bizarre beliefs aside, since beliefs have nothing to do with whether a group is a cult or not -- Scientologists are a more dangerous cult than JWs. IMO, I would give a Scientologist's experience an 8 or 9 (on a scale of 0 to 10); while I would give the average JW's experience a 6 or 7 on the Cult-O-Meter Scale (of course, individaul results might vary).
  
  

  • Scientologists don't just shun, they actively try to sabotage the life of ex-members.
  
  
  • They don't just reject a certain medical procedure, the reject ALL disease as being a product of the mind ("engrams"). (True story: I was walking with a friend, who would die three weeks later due to cancer, downtown in front of the Scientolgy Canada headquarters. My Friend was YELLOW because his liver was failing. This was his last day outside before going to the hosptital to die. My friend sees a client of his, a known Scientologist, soliciting outside the Headquarters. This client suggests my frind should come inside to their headquarters, as they have some REAL HELP that could save him. As if a B.S. auditing session could help with cancer and liver failure. Sheesh)
  
  
  • They don't just beg for donations and recommend to old folks how/why they can donate their estate; they actively CHARGE PLENTY OF MONEY for a never ending series of "Audits".

  
  
  In the end: Same S**T, different color, and a bit more stinky! (How is THAT for an elegant summary?)
  
  ~Q
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  A new cult idea -- or is it?

  by osmosis in

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  Listen Ye NOT to the Heathens preaching the wiles of the Satanic protection of Notepad!
  
  True Believers(tm) in The Church of Blank(tm), especially those Annointed By MS-Word(tm) shun anything to do with Simiple ASCII(tm) and the vile and perverted interoperability it facilitates!
  
  We True Blankists(tm) will continue to use the Holy Sepulcher of Rich Text Format(tm) until those in The World(tm) accept the Wrath at the Billionaric(tm) Return of the Great Gates(tm), with his Son, Balmer(tm), at his side, and the Holy Spirit of Paul Allen(tm) carrying out all that Gates has commanded.
  
  Repent ye, and Upgrade(tm). Probably your data might be saved!
  
  ~Q
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  Rebuilding Katrina Victims Homes in Baytown/Beaumont Tx

  by Mystery in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my niece called me last week, as she does every year at this time, to remind me of my sisters anniversary.

  this is the only time she ever calls me, i am a black sheep and she is a pioneer.

  none of them (except possibly her dad will call me an apostate cause ill come back one day) .

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  IP_SEC said:
  
  "They pay and then expect to get the insurance settlement from the witness when it comes in. If there is no insurance they still do the work."
  
  Exactly. Think about this: if you have insurance, it covers the cost to rebuild: Labour and Materials. But the WTS has a free labour force (since room and board is covered by the local brothers; also they do not pay hourly wages) so their only out-of-pocket expense it the materials.
  
  So, they collect the insurance check from the affected Bro or Sis, and he/she is comfortable knowing that their new house was rapidly prepared by unpaid, and possibly unprofessional, non-union volunteers. I hope that Brother Mumbler has better drywall skills than verbal skills in the TMS! :)
  
  My question is: how, exactly, does WTS get the insurance cheque? How do they keep track? Or is it an honour system? Or do they inform their insurance agent that "Witch Power Building Services" will be the General Contractor, and request the cheque be sent to Witch Power? Seriously, does anyone know how the transaction takes place?
  
  ~Q
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  It's High Time I Introduce Myself

  by Lady Liberty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's high time i introduce myself.

  i feel like i know many of you already, just by daily reading your posts over the last year.

  you all have been a support to my husband and i, even though you were not even aware we were even here.

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  Thanks for posting your story, Lady Liberty. I really enjoyed reading it; a great example of using simple objective reasoning and a handful of healthy skepticism to think your way out of a deep pit. Great stuff!
  
  Oh, and welcome to the board, I hope we hear more from you.
  
  ~Q
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  Elder™ sighting at work

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for background info: two elders came to visit this afternoon.

  so i'm at work tonight and just before the coffee shop closes, i run downstairs to get something to drink to tide me over the next several hours.

  as i approach the kiosque, i see a familiar face approaching from the opposite direction.

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  Scully said "But I already have those"
  
  Oh, sure. *YOU* have those. ;)
  
  But some of us are not so lucky. Some of us were ordered to destroy their WTS Lib CD-ROM. Some of us are prevented from obtaining such things "except through legal means". Some of us feel that an elder freely supplying a CD to person A, and then person A freely gives said CD to person Q, would be operating through legal means.
  
  Of course, I'm just kidding. I don't really want their crap. :) Still, it would be nice to make them work!
  
  ~Q
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  Pioneer Sister's "No Blood Keyrings"

  by Clam in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here's a product on ebay.

  it's a keyring to hang off your minsistry bag.

  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/jehovahs-witness-no-blood-keyring_w0qqitemz6613386991qqcategoryz3628qqsspagenamezwdvwqqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.

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  M.J., very insightful.
  
  ~Q
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  Would You Believe...

  by inbyathread in

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  for those who remember the 'get smart' tv comedy.. i really liked don adams.

  may he always help us in our mission.

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  "No? OK Chief, how about Any Day Now, we've turned the corner and are staring Armageddon in the face."
  
  ~Q
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  Watchtower claim to be a small business to avoid Privacy Act. What do I do?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i sent a letter to the wts requesting my personal records under the privacy act.

  they refused so i went to the office of the privacy commissioner.

  i just received a letter back saying they can not investigate it as the watchtower is a small business.

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  "...you can submit an application to appeal the decision..."
  
  BINGO.
  
  I take it for granted that WTS Australia has annual revenues in excess of AUD$3M. Now, they might claim that they give it all away (to WTS Crooklyn) and have nothing left. Well, that defies the "not part of another organization" angle they are running.
  
  Does your local TV station have one of those "Action reporter on your side, helping you fight back" reporters? I'll bet you could get one interested.
  
  BTW, now that Canada has a Privacy Act, has anyone tried this here in Canuckistan?
  
  ~Q
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  ORANGEFATCAT HAS A BRAIN TUMOR

  by orangefatcat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, it is so, that i have a brain tumor and i will be going to the hospital in about two hours.

  i will ask my son richard to keep all of you posted.

  i have all of you in my heart.

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  OFC, my thoughts are with you this evening. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
  
  Keep smiling!
  
  ~Q
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  Elder™ sighting at work

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for background info: two elders came to visit this afternoon.

  so i'm at work tonight and just before the coffee shop closes, i run downstairs to get something to drink to tide me over the next several hours.

  as i approach the kiosque, i see a familiar face approaching from the opposite direction.

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  Scully said:
  
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  Then he asked me if he could bring over any Literature™.
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  Correct response: "Sure! Could you get me the latest Watch Tower Library CD-ROM? I could also use a copy of the "Pay Attention..." book. Oh, and just to add further cost: how about a Proclaimers book and also an Aid book.
  
  ~PM