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  Do Majority of exJWs remain Christians?

  by Ray Skyhorse in

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  do the majority of exjws retain a christian faith after leaving the borg?

  does the majority of exjws continue studying the bible on their own or join a new christian group that's less rigid than the jws?

  or does the majority say to hell with christianity?.

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  bboyneko said

  My standing right now is I am not christian..after all I researched i cocnluded the bible is a very flawed book, tainted by centuries of peoples medling with it and molding it into what they wish. It;s just another book to me, no holier than the ingredient list on my box of kellog's corn pops. Jesus lived, but to me he is just a man, a follower of another man, john the baptist.

  I respect that you have done your research, the dead sea scrolls study sound interesting, is there a web site you used?
  However it's a shame (to me) that you did not remain a Christian, because at the same time many men and women have done the same in deapth study, which rather then it weaken their faith it as had the opposite effect.

  Then there are ones become born again Christian's. They have a personnel relationship with Jesus, they know him like a close friend. This is the type thing that can not be studied, because we can not experience a persons feelings for them.

  slipnslidemaster said......

  I couldn't agree with JT more or have said it any better.

  after a combined 60+ yrs between my wife and i we have decided to take a break for religion, bible and god

  after yrs of arguing over this Greek word and that greek word we feel we need a break

  Again there are one's who have studied Hebrew and Greek. This as served to strengthen their faith in the Bible, their religion and God.

  In the end I feel there is more to this life then meets the eye. I am a Christian so I believe in the creator. When I sit back I can not see how the intricate design of all things can possibly come about by chance. There are always arguments and counter arguments. For every answer there is always someone there with a counter-answer. In fact you can get to the stage where you feel like this.........
  

  qwerty

  "I have an existential map; it has 'you are here' written all over it. "
  - Steven Wright
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  Do Majority of exJWs remain Christians?

  by Ray Skyhorse in

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  do the majority of exjws retain a christian faith after leaving the borg?

  does the majority of exjws continue studying the bible on their own or join a new christian group that's less rigid than the jws?

  or does the majority say to hell with christianity?.

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  Interesting topic.
  I thought I'd bring this topic back to the top for the U.S friends.
  (Because of the time diff. )
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  Do Majority of exJWs remain Christians?

  by Ray Skyhorse in

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  do the majority of exjws retain a christian faith after leaving the borg?

  does the majority of exjws continue studying the bible on their own or join a new christian group that's less rigid than the jws?

  or does the majority say to hell with christianity?.

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  Hi Ray Skyhorse

  I have always had a respect for the Bible from being young and always wanted to understand it better (enter JW's!). It's taken me 15 years of being a JW's to see I have been misled, thanks to niggling doubts on different subjects. One thing that bugged me was the organisation repeating that they are "GOD'S ORGANISATION", anyone not associated with it at the big 'A' will be annulated.

  Although I still attend meetings for family reasons (I must admit it is getting harder to sit through all the double talk and misapplication of scripture), I am a free man in the sense I don't believe everything I am told as truth from the Org's mouth.

  I believe that my Brothers and sisters are from all denominations, who am I to judge my fellow man as to being Christian or not. Being a Christian is much simpler than JW's think. "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free"- Jesus said, plain and simple message to all men. No need to be a scholar, accurate knowledge and all that! The truth is that Jesus died for mankind and "ANYONE" believing in him as there savour and trying to lead a Godly life "WILL BE SAVED".

  So yes I am a Christian and proud to be a follower of Christ, to the best of my ability and not to the ability of an organisation. One that makes you feel inadequate for not living up to their perceived requirements.

  John 8;30 Then many of the Jewish leaders who heard him say these things began believing him to be the Messiah. Jesus said to them, ``You are truly my disciples if you live as I tell you to,
  32. and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.''

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  "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. "
  - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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  Englishman's party

  by Belmont in

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  have just spent a delightful afternoon at englishman's barbecue - sunshine, good food and wine, and scintillating company.

  mr. dubinapub was there, singing irish rebel songs and passing round illicit liquor.. am i being corrupted by bad associations?

  :-)

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  Mmmmmmmm was that the same BQ/Picknick I was invited to?
  Was it the one for XJW's and current JW rebels?

  It's sounds like you all had a great time.

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  Some Luvverly Quips.

  by Englishman in

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  there's some brilliant one-liners here, especially the section on religion.

  http://www.fiskforsk.norut.no/ff/po/priv/perler.htm.

  englishman.. ..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

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  Here's one for you M!

  "24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case.... coincidence?"
  ....Steven Wright

  Cheers,

  qwerty.
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  'Your Right To Believe' 1.8.01 WT !!!

  by ISP in

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  please find below scanned in excerpts of the cover article of the 1/8/01 wt.

  its another one of those articles which makes you say to yourself how can they print this!?..

  under the heading your right to believe it has the following paragraph.

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  ISP

  Since I very rarely read through the latest WT and Awake mags for fear of going mad. I thank you for bringing this article to the boards attention, sorry I mean, lerker attention. Bit by bit this sort of thing will get through to those who are quietly reading this forum.

  qwerty,

  P.S It was good to talk on the phone the other night.

  "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance."
  - Will Durant
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  Caption Contest

  by Yerusalyim in

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  "what the hell is a watchtower, what the hell are publishers, where are you getting all this bullshit?".

  st paul.

  yerusalyim.

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  Nessun dorma ... Nessun dorma! La Prince...iii.. is a Witness? WHAT! Oh no!

  Whoops wrong stadium!

  http://www.lucianopavarotti.com/intro_en.shtml
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  Blood, The Watchtower and Deceit

  by Maximus in

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  while much attention is given to doctrine in sites such as this, very little is noted about the watchtower societys intellectual dishonesty in its publications, especially when it comes to quotations.. oftentimes the societys writers will cite a scholar or author of some repute: "professor blank observes that blah, blah, blah.

  " the reader assumes from the quotation that professor blank is in agreement with the organizations position, of course, and that the quotation chosen accurately depicts the authors thoughts.. heres the catch: the words between the quotation marks may be accurate, but the snippet may not at all faithfully represent someones actual thesis or position.

  much like a newspaper ad for a movie that quotes a reviewer as saying "monumental!

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  Lee Elder, Maximus, hawkaw, and our other valuable poster of well research info. I would have like to be the first say thankyou, but others beat me to it.

  Your time and efforts are much appreciated.

  qwerty

  "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. "
  - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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  Favourite Stand Up Comic

  by BugEye in

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  international of course:.

  dave allen, irish standup (sit down drinking whisky actually).

  bill cosby, love that fat albert.

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  A British comic of course!

  http://www.davidpughltd.freeserve.co.uk/art/past_cast/Allam_Dee_Ford/dee.htm
  Jack Dee
  

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  Some Things in Life Are Bad - Monty Python

  by LadyBug in

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  and ... always look on the bright side of life.

  always look on the bright side of life.

  always look on the bright side of life.

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  That's why JW's Window Cleaners always Whistle!

  Trying to cheer themselves up? .....Maybe!

  If life seems jolly rotten, there’s something you’ve forgotten
  And that’s to laugh and smile and dance and sing
  When your feeling in the dumps, don’t be silly chumps
  Just purse your lips and whistle, that’s the thing

  You carn't beat a bit 'hu' British comedy.

  Dad's Army, as to be the best.

  http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/dadsarmy/index.html

  [quote]"DON'T PANIC!...... DON'T PANIC"! Clive Dunn

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