Posts by r51785

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JW E-MAIL... MUST READ. THE END, PROOF.

by whereami in

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independent research by the r&f.

the boys in the writing committee need to hire this person.. .

this is alot to read, but so amazing to see all of the events listed that happened all in this year.

r51785

"However of this we can be sure: The 1970's will certainly see the most critical times mankind has yet known." -- Awake! October 8, 1968, page 14.

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CONVICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Tatiana in

convicted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

http://www.knbc.com/news/15917878/detail.html.

murrieta man convicted of molesting sisters ages 9, 10. jury takes less than day to find simental guilty .

Some have asked about the second molestation charge which Simental will be tried on in May. This incident occurred at the same pool party where the two sisters were molested. I attended the trial and got the impression that this had just come to light, so therefore the elders in question would not have dealt with it when they had the judicial committee meeting with Simental.

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elders testify

by isaacaustin in

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http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/pe_news_local_d_faith11.41dc684.html

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Since I live nearby, I went to the trial Thursday morning. I got there about one half hour before the trial started and stayed through the elders' testimony. One thing that interested me was the attitude of Elder (or should I say former elder) Vaughn. Prior to the trial beginning, he sat in the hallway with his attorney fretting over what might happen to him if he refused to testify. Then when defendant Simental showed up, Vaughn greeted him warmly. Good to see that brotherly affection. At nine o'clock I noticed that the jury was still outside while the defense attorney and the elders' lawyers were going into court. I asked the DA if I could go in as well and he said that his was okay as it was an open trial. With the jury still outside Elder Sinay was sworn in. He read his statement of protest against having to testify. Interestingly among other things he denied moving Simental to another congregation after the molestation. After his statement the defense attorney told the judge that he objected to the elders having to testify. The judge noted the objection. Then the two elders signed the immunity agreement. After this the judge told the two elders' lawyers that they could leave the court. Then there was a discussion between the judge, prosecutor and defense attorney over the issue of whether the jury would be told about the elders' attempts to avoid testifying. It was agreed that the jury would not be told about this. It was also stipulated that the jury would not be told about the nature of the judicial punishment Simental received from the congregation. This was regarded by the judge as irrelevant. Then the jury came in. Sinay had a great deal of difficulty remembering things. He said that Simental admitted to touching the girls, but could not for the life of him remember where Simental touched the girls. He thought it was on the thigh or perhaps the ankle. He denied having any notes, recordings or record of what was said. One would have gotten the impression that Simental did nothing wrong from just listening to Sinay's testimony. My impression of Sinay was that he was a true "company man" who was following orders from the legal department. Former elder Vaughn was sworn next. He was very nervous. His nervousness caused him to also have memory problems. Among the things he couldn't remember were the names of all the elders in the Mountain View Congregation which he served in during 2006. He also could only remember one of the girl's names. So much for an elder knowing his flock. He did state that he was sure that Sinay touched each of the two girls in the vaginal area. The defense attorney on cross attempted to impeach his memory by pointing out the things he failed to remember (as I stated above). The defense attorney handled him well. Neither elder contributed much to the prosecution case in my opinion. During break I introduced myself to Tammy McCoy, the Press-Enterprise reporter. We discussed the issue of priest-penitent confidentiality and she agreed that it did not apply in this case. I told her that I was suspicious of the elders' faulty memories. She said that Vaughn was clearly nervous. I pointed out to her that it was quite impossible for me to believe that he had forgotten the names of some of the elders he served with only a year and a half ago. I thanked her for her articles and told her that people in many places were reading them. She thanked me and said she had been getting emails from "all over." At that point I had to leave. Time permitting I may go back next week for more.

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The UN is on the verge of banning religion - JWs favorite rumor

by VM44 in

the un is on the verge of banning religion.. why is this rumor constantly being brought up by the jws?.

the un does not have the power to ban religion, such an act would go against its very charter and its declaration of human rights.. many of the member nations are islamic and would never vote to ban religion as it would undermine their own very existence.. so the idea that the un would or could ban or even consider banning religion is unrealistic.

never going to happen.. but the jws have been whispering that "the un is going to ban religion" for decades....why?

r51785

It is far more likely that the religions of the world will gather together and "ban" the UN.

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What's your favourite "Murphy's Law"

by JH in

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http://roso.epfl.ch/dm/murphy.html.

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Cole's Law: Anything that can go wrong with cabbage and mayonnaise will.

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Quotable Quotes; Please Add Yours ...

by compound complex in

the endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects,.

culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the .

great papal system; and thereby the 'gospel,' the 'one faith,'.

r51785

In the long run we are all dead. -- John Maynard Keynes

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Quotable Quotes; Please Add Yours ...

by compound complex in

the endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects,.

culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the .

great papal system; and thereby the 'gospel,' the 'one faith,'.

r51785

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H. L. Mencken

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How Did Being Referred To As A Brother Or Sister Make You Feel?

by The wanderer in

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how did being referred to as a brother or sister make you feel?the term brother always reminded me of being in some militant or holy roller religion.

during my tenure as a jehovahs witness, i brought it to the elders attention to refer to .

me by using my first or last name when addressing me.

r51785

If I ever went back, I would insist that everyone call me "Comrade r51785" instead of "Brother r51785."

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Does anyone have dates for convention in San Diego, CA?

by r51785 in

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thanks!!

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r51785

Thanks!!!

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The world IS getting worse!!

by themonster123 in

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i'm telling you- i honestly think people are getting more immoral!!

i saw something on the news last night where some bicycler got hit in the middle of the road in the middle of a huge intersection and people were slowing down to go around him.

that was at some urban centre in tel aviv, israel.

r51785

You are correct, nothing like this has ever happened before in the history of the world. Therefore the time for Jehovah to slaughter six billion must be close at hand! Jesus replied and said, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho; and he fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went off leaving him half dead. And by chance a certain priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.